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Hamas launched a whole bunch of rockets at Israeli civilians and killed many. Israel declared war as a result. Situation still ongoing
Dude, it's a fucking ground invasion. They are murdering civilians in their homes and kidnapping Israeli citizens into the Gaza strip
Oh no they're invading their own land. Bastards!
Invasion is a bit over the top. It is a few thousand fighters with no chance to reconquer any territory. It is an incursion at best.
"special operation"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion
Neither can Hamas field large numbers, nor is Israel a similiar entity, as it is an established nation state with a well armed military, nor is the goal to conquer or establish authority over the areas attacked. The only criterium that is fullfilled is the "gaining concessions" part.
And comparing this to the russian invasion of Ukraine is just silly. Or did i miss the videos of kilometre long convoys driving onto Jerusalem, and hundreds of aircrafts launching from Gaza? I've seen some videos of guys in a motorized paraglider. But you dont want to really consider that equal to a fighter jet or attack helicopter do you?
I love that two words triggered tf out of you
Terrorist attacks. They attacked a rave with young people just there for music. The strength, size, and surprise of the attack is akin to a 9/11 or a pearl harbor for the Israeli.
It's still more monstrous that anything Isreal have done.., and boy oh boy they've done things.
I've seen way too many photos and videos in the past day. I've seen a women got shot in her car from the outside. Her baby was executed on the back seat. Mind you, the religion they believe in absolutely prohibits this.
I've seen the video of the Israeli soldiers lifeless bodies getting beaten and limbs getting cut off. I've seen soldier bodies getting loaded on to jeeps, pickups or even a guy carrying a body with a scooter.
I saw the video of an Israeli woman taken hostage, with her crotch are having blood(?) stains.
I've seen the pictures of women that were taken hostage and their relatives looking for them in Facebook. (Technically, Islam don't prohibit female hostages to be used as sex slaves, but I might be wrong on that).
I even saw the German girl they've murdered, strip and carry the body around with a pickup.
On the other side, the worst thing Israelis did were to strip down and reverse hand cuffed bunch of Hamas people. Also numbering them with paint.
Both sides are bad but holy fuck, seeing what Hamas have done in the course of a single day.., Isrealis look like they're good guys (which they definitely aren't, btw).
I looked for footage and i have seen none of these. Also saying the worst Israel did was handcuff some people is full of bullshit, when there is videos of them bombing hospitals and NGOs like MFS reporting their doctors killed. Oh and of course there is the constant killing of Palestinians over the years, like the murder of a journalist last year.
To correct myself, worst I've seen today would be a much better sentence.
Hamas did exactly the same this time, so they're now the same shit in different colors.
This is true, but it's still much more humane than stripping down a dead body and carry it around the world to see. One is shitty, other one is straight up barbaric.
This video is a great example, even though it's not the longest of specific scene you could find. Turns out she was a German citizen, a tattoo artist, only half Israeli. She was there to attend to a festival for the peace in Gazza.
It was not a "festival for the peace in Gaza". That was a statement by CNN from an undisclosed source, also known as a lie, and has since been deleted. Just letting you know.
It's MSF, Médecins Sans Frontiers.
Thanks.