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How do you tell gender envy from attraction?
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Why not both?
I'm a transfemme lesbian, and pretty much ever cute girl I see makes me freak out like that. Like, "do I want to be them or be with them?
It's definitely hard to deal with in the beginning, especially if you haven't fully accepted that you're trans. Just to remind you, cis people don't think like that :p
Hope that helps <3
Cis woman attracted to men here. If I woke up tomorrow looking like the most attractive man Iโd ever seen, I would freak out and find a doctor who would help me transition back as soon as possible.
That's totally valid, but I want to point out to people who may be confused that how strongly one feels about gender is a spectrum! I personally don't really care how I look anymore and I never had strong feelings about masc/femme presenting body. For someone like @Stoneblackdog@beehaw.org, they may have difficulty separating envy from attraction because they don't feel strongly about how they currently look, or how they look in general. When I see an aesthetic I like, I almost always am simultaneously attracted to it on multiple dimensions and want to embody it too! I'd love to be able to shapeshift, because then my body could more easily fit how I feel that day, or that I could just explore all the world has to offer.
If I could shapeshift, I'd be too hot for this universe, hence why I can't shapeshift, and no one can prove otherwise ๐ค
Also, you put it perfectly! Significantly more coherent than what I was trying to say, but that's what I get for trying to comment something that in-depth whilst on my 15 minute break lmao
This is so hilarious to me because I never realized how many cis people undoubtedly feel this way ๐
Though it's worth mentioning that it's crap as an "am I trans" thought experiment. I am long post-medical transition and my reaction is "well that'd be weird, but whatever, I'd get on with life, I suppose" and then I remember I've been there, done that! Somehow transitioning was very much about my body (top surgery was like a switch flipping) and also not about my body.
Sorry, I thought I was being helpful. Should I delete my comment?
No, no. The "oh god that'd be terrible" reaction is probably a pretty good indicator one isn't trans (or at least I've never encountered a trans person reporting that pre-transition), it's just that people sometimes assume the "well that'd be odd, but whatever" reaction doesn't exist in people both cis and trans.
Importantly, you recognize the divide in those two things so clearly there is one for you, but if you were questioning it the same way OP is and the divide were less clear accordingly, I'd say that divide wouldn't really matter much
I think it would matter if I wanted to figure out whether I was trans or not. For some people it might not be that important to hammer down their gender identity, and nobody should feel an obligation to, but other people might find it personally important to figure out their identity instead of leaving it be as a question mark. I think that OP might be more of the latter kind of person who wants to figure it out.
Yeah I suppose the reading kinda changes based on how far along OP is in their gender journey lol
I have had similar thoughts as well as a cis gay man. Do I find this guy attractive, or do I want to be this guy. It's sometimes hard to tell the difference.