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Please, do not use Brave. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I have seen many people in this community either talking about switching to Brave, or people who are actively using Brave. I would like to remind people that Brave browser (and by extension their search engine) is not privacy-centric whatsoever.

Brave was already ousted as spyware in the past and the company has made many decisions that are questionable at best. For example, Brave made a cryptocurrency which they then added to a rewards program that is built into the browser to encourage you to enable ads that are controlled by Brave.

Edit: Please be aware that the spyware article on Brave (and the rest of the browsers on the site) is outdated and may not reflect the browser as it is today.

After creating this cryptocurrency and rewards program, they started inserting affiliate codes into URL's. Prior to this they had faked fundraising for popular social media creators.

Do these decisions seem like ones a company that cares about their users (and by extension their privacy) would make? I'd say the answer is a very clear no.

One last thing, Brave illegally promoted an eToro affiliate program making a fortune from its users who will likely lose their money.

Edit: To the people commenting saying how Brave has a good out-of-the-box experience compared to other browsers, yes, it does. However, this is not a warning for your average person, this is a warning for people who actively care about their privacy and don't mind configuring their browser to maximize said privacy.

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[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 1 year ago
[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

What are the better solutions for iOS users?

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

As I stated in a previous post, if you are using an iPhone you've basically given up on having privacy. For ad blockers you could use AdGuard and Safari, it's better than nothing. You could also use something like Mullvad VPN, it has DNS ad blocking.

[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago

As I stated in a previous post, I am using AdGuard on safari. And since I’ve basically given up on privacy, I also use Brave at times.

[-] maiskanzler@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Someone mentioned Firefox Focus.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Not on iOS. Every browser on iOS is effectively just a skin for safari. There is no true Firefox for iPhone, or chrome for that matter.

If you're using an iPhone, you willingly surrendered your freedom of choice. This is what you paid for.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Firefox focus blocks ads on YouTube.

Safari with Wipr does not.

I know because I have them both. I use them for different things.

[-] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Won't be the case for much longer if the EU gets their way, I'm glad to say.

[-] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Something unique about the Brave browser is that it allows me to use filter lists to block ads. I can insert my own custom lists too which is cool.

I haven’t found another browser that allows this on iOS (other than safari with extensions).

[-] break1146@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Doesn't Firefox support extensions on iOS? I'm on Android and I'm currently using uBlock Origin and Dark Reader. I also use Lemmy through it, seems to work quite well.

[-] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Nope, no extensions for Firefox on iOS unfortunately.

[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

Firefox focus doesn’t seem to save open windows, it’s a purely incognito browser. & you can only have one page open at a time.

[-] Zoop@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right about the first part; it's an incognito, tracker & ad blocking browser that clears your history and everything every time you close it... but if you long press on a link, you can open it in a new tab. Multiple, even. There's just no option I've found to open a blank new tab and navigate to a website that way. So I totally understand why you'd think that!

(I hope this doesn't come off as pedantic or rude or anything. That's definitely not my intention here - I just want people to be able to make informed decisions with correct information, ya feel?)

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Focus does indeed block YT ads!

Even safari with Wipr does not. Though it is amazing for everything else.

[-] relaymoth@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Orion by Kagi. It is, afaik, are the only browser that isn’t just a re-skin of Safari.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s not something the average person can or will do, but if you’re so inclined you can run Pi-Hole or AdGuard Home and have all your iOS devices go through it.

I even set up a VPN for when I’m away from home that I can connect to and get routed through my home internet connection which gives me ad blocking on the go.

Or if you want a simpler answer, look into using the AdGuard app on your iOS device.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

PiHole does not block YouTube ads.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I haven’t used Pi-Hole in a long time to know that, but I don’t seem to have any issue with them using AdGuard Home.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

AdGuard may work! PiHole has never blocked YT ads tho :c

[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks I didn’t know you could do this with pi-hole. I’m currently testing out AdGuard but it seems you have to turn it on every time you open a new yt vid

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

PiHole cannot block YT ads.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sideloading either Yatee or uYou+

Or use Piped as a PWA

[-] Panda@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I haven't tried it but there's also Kagi's Orion browser which looks interesting.

[-] dragonrules@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This browser is helpful on iOS because it can run Firefox or chrome extensions. Ublock origin works great. I don’t see any ads.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

uBlock Origin actually doesn't work at all on Orion, it's just that the browsers built-in ad blocker is very good.

[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks I didn’t know about that one and I thought I went through all the alternatives. Currently I’m primarily watching YouTube vids through invidious in safari but will use brave when I watch my saved playlists.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly had no idea this existed, cool!

[-] lastrogue@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is why I use Brave on iOS devices. It is the best option I found. Others mention Adguard home and pihole. They just don’t work as well at blocking ads.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don't use iOS.

I mean, that's it. That's your only option. On iOS, Safari is the only real choice you have.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox focus blocks YouTube ads.

[-] fatbeer@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I chose an iPhone because I didn’t want to use googles play store. Now I know there are options around that but most users (including myself at least for now) are not willing to learn how to do that and set it up.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

FYI to you or anyone who doesn't know: If you are browsing the internet on an iOS or iPadOS device you are forced to use the Webkit rendering engine. Chrome, Safari, Brave, Firefox. All of them use Webkit to display web pages because you won't get an app on the App store if you use anything else. The EU is forcing Apple to allow other browsing tech through the app submission process, so we will see alternatives in the future.

[-] seang96@spgrn.com 3 points 1 year ago

I read a couple months back Mozilla got some internal builds with their engine for iOS. This is the #1 reason why I don't have an iPhone. I'd probably get one next time I am looking if this happens. That or maybe Ubuntu touch or something gets more mature.

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