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submitted 1 year ago by cyclohexane@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

There is this common narrative I see all the time, implying that we as individuals are empowered to choose and manifest our own destiny, and this comes up often in privacy discussions.

Don't like Facebook's privacy nightmares? Just don't use Facebook!

Don't like personalized ads? I remember a popular post on reddit saying "if your ad interrupts my YouTube video, I will hate your product".

Don't like Google chrome hegemony? Just use Firefox!

And while I agree that we should strive to do that, the battle doesn't end here. Facebook has shadow accounts for people who never signed up. Google chrome keeps it's hegemony despite people on the Internet advocating Firefox day and night. And ads continue to be extremely profitable despite you "hating the product" because it interrupted your YouTube video.

Even worse: even if you "hate the product", you now already know it. You now know they product exists, and possibly whatever they wanted you to know about it. The reality is that these companies own your eyes. They control what shows up on your screen. And even if you hate it, they control what you end up learning.

the reality is that our individual resistance is very far from enough

I am not saying it is completely futile. It is a step in the right direction. But the only effective solution is organized action. We, alone, cannot achieve much. Unless we organize our resistance against privacy violations, we will continue to live through this privacy nightmare.

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[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

/e/OS is a terrible option, they sometimes take half a year to ship basic security patches. If your device is not supported by Graphene, you can check out DivestOS. Sure, you can use arkenfox, I just included LibreWolf, because it's easier to set up. +1 for Mull on Android. I use it too. IVPN is one of the most private VPNs, I'd say it's on the same level as Mullvad in regards to privacy. Check out the Privacy Guides article: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/#ivpn Yes, there are currently some really weird people on Odysee, but the more normal people like TLE leave, the worse it gets. I hate these right-wing bastards as much as you do, especially in the comments, but that's the reason why more people should use Odysee instead of YouTube. We just need to outnumber them. Odysee is definitely not perfect, but it's better than being dependent on YouTube, who currently try to shut down all private frontends. They sent a lovely cease and desist letter to Invidious, and they IP-ban Piped instances (which LibreTube relies on).

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see, you might be right about Odysee. though /e/OS actually is really good, don't be so prejudiced about it. I didn't try to disprove your guide or anything BTW, tried to expand it a bit.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never used /e/OS before, so I don't know what it feels like to use it, and I really don't want to shit on a FOSS project for no reason, but the frequency at which they deliver updates is terrifying. I wouldn't recommend people to run an OS that is constantly out-of-date and has unpatched security vulnerabilities. But I would appreciate it, if you could tell me what is so awesome about /e/OS. I did some research and as far as I can see it's just LineageOS with microG and a skinned Aurora Store, and a Launcher that desperately tries to look like iOS. You can recreate a better version of all of this with ease on GrapheneOS. The Sandboxed Google Play services implementation is miles ahead of microG, and has better app compatibility, while not compromising on privacy. Also, Graphene has many low-level security improvements to the system like a hardened memory allocator, hardened SELinux policies, etc. I like that Murena ships /e/OS on Fairphones, but I will always prefer GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel, because of the hardware security features (Titan M2 Secure Element). TL;DR: /e/OS has better privacy than stock Android ROMs, but pretty bad security, because of a lack of frequent security patches.

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't mind being slightly behind other android ROMs in terms of updates, I get updates every once in a few months on e/OS. One of the main freatures is that there is a feature caled advanced privacy you can block all trackers, spoof your GPS location and Tunnel your IP Adress through Tor from the settings or from its Widget at a per App basis without root out of the box. It also comes completly degoogled and with microg all default apps replaced with a foss alternatives. Its fork of Aurora store "app lounge" has privacy ratings for all the apps calculated using the permissions they require and trackers they have, it includes FOSS and pwa apps too.(also must admit I mostly just use fdroid). There is a lot to love about it and it is compatible with a lot more phones than grapheneOS. I know that you can achieve most of it, if not all of it on graphene too but /e/OS makes privacy "convenient".

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the main freatures is that there is a feature caled advanced privacy you can block all trackers

It's probably just a DNS filter. You can achieve the same thing on any Android phone using NextDNS (or any DNS resolver that blocks trackers) and the native Android DNS-over-TLS implementation, which is present on every Android ROM that's based on Android 9 or higher. It takes 5 minutes to set up.

Tunnel your IP Adress through Tor from the settings or from its Widget at a per App basis without root out

You can do that with the free Orbot app released by the Tor Project.

Its fork of Aurora store “app lounge” has privacy ratings for all the apps calculated using the permissions they require and trackers they have

The information about Trackers and Permissions comes from Exodus Privacy and it's included in the normal Aurora Store too

it includes FOSS and pwa apps too

This is actually a nice feature. Of course, you can get FOSS apps and PWAs on other ROMs as well, but it's nice to have all the apps in one central place. Very useful, especially for new users.

(also must admit I mostly just use fdroid)

That's what I do on GrapheneOS too

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is not DNS as far as I can tell since you can edit dns settings seperately. I use quad9 dns for example

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You understand, that you can locally filter DNS and then send these filtered requests to a remote nameserver, right? DNS filtering can absolutely happen locally. A great example for that is the /etc/hosts file on Unix/Unix-like operating systems (including Android, e.g. DivestOS locally filters network requests using a hosts file)

No I didn't know that :)

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