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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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I figured out this manifesto exists because somebody from the EFF posted: "Nothing depresses me like the knowledge that I am going to have to spend some of my precious workday reading a manifesto." So expect a lot of sanity damage.
(Read the opening, yep, got 1d8 from that already. I'm raising the 'the invention of letters was a mistake' flag).
Yeah, the whole manifesto is so weird. Missing parts (like a poverty/affordable housing solution (see elsewhere in the thread here where people talk about his history with affordable housing and his 8m~ dollar home), parts which are just wrong (I would say he should go back to school, but as he already has a manifesto I do not want to risk another school shooting), the whole "Techno-Optimists believe that societies, like sharks, grow or die.", isn't the myth/saying (doesn't apply to all sharks) that sharks need to keep moving or die. (Also just the whole 'did you just compare yourself to sharks?' (them being superkillers is also a myth but still)). The whole manifesto still (partially) works if you just replace 'growth' with 'keep moving', which then comes closer to some of the actual complaints people have about 'techbros', and not his weird strawmen.
I thought he was confusing sharks with crocodiles where there is the myth that they would live forever and keep growing if their environment allowed for it
Ah yes, that could be it. (comparing yourself to crocodiles (who are iirc genetically pretty stable, and not very likely to change over time, vs technology always being in flux is also a bit odd)). But I prob have now thought 10x more about it than he did.
It’s such a disappointing feeling when you realise that, isn’t it? They have the rationalist mindset of not putting energy into something if there isn’t immediate evidence of ROI but they sell things based on promises that hard work / trust in their words will pay off at some point down the road.
too cold? just pull some power via powerlines from powerplant. ezpz
too poor? just pull some abundance via abundancelines from abundanceplant. ezpz
@Soyweiser Has he been huffing Marinetti's exhaust fumes again?
yep, it's in there
He's quoting the futurists? Didn't half of them go fascist?
just making sure everyone knows who he looks up to, telling everyone who it is that inspires him! you know how people gush about their role models
Sorry I have no idea who you are talking about here. I was referring to Eva. (I saw her post and went 'wonder what that could be about' and then I saw this here and everything fell into place).
Anyway, more ontopic, I wonder if this a sign our '20th century 2.0' replay has arrived at the futurist art movement? Or if that ship has long sailed and was more started by Land in the 90's.
This time the art sucks.
(Edit: Guess you were talking about Marc)