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75% of women killed by intimate partners are killed when they attempt to leave or after they have left. Getting away is in no way, shape, or form a path to safety.
https://domesticabuseshelter.org/domestic-violence/#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20a%20woman%20will,have%20left%20an%20abusive%20relationship.
Wow didn't know about this metric :(
Gonna disagree with that. Just because the path to safety is also dangerous doesn’t mean it’s not the path to safety.
People are sometimes forced to choose between two dangerous options.
And yet you disagree with the fact that the chance of being murdered increases when they make the choice to leave? Even when provided evidence?
I disagree with the suggestion that “getting away is in no way a path to safety”.
Statistically it's true so have fun with that ig
It’s like escaping a war-torn country as a refugee. Is that trip dangerous? Yes. Does that mean they should stay in an unsafe situation? No.
It's not the same. Not every abusive relationship is a threat to your life but 75% of the time escaping an abusive relationship adds a new threat to life. Maybe a better way of putting it would have been "a guaranteed path to safety" but at that point you're just arguing semantics. I would be extremely surprised if escaping a war-torn country adds another 75% chance you'll be murdered. And it's not an argument to not leave the relationship if that's what you're taking from all this.
You may want to reconsider your math. There’s a big difference between “75% of women who are killed by a partner are killed when they leave” and “75% of women who leave an abusive partner are killed”.