99
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

It's literally a plant with holes in it. I'm pretty sure the tradition never even had anything to do with satan.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Carving vegetables began in Ireland and was brought to the United States. It was bases on a folk tale.The Legend of 'Stingy Jack'

According to the story, Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn’t want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form.

Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack for one year and that, should Jack die, he would not claim his soul. The next year, Jack again tricked the Devil into climbing into a tree to pick a piece of fruit. While he was up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree’s bark so that the Devil could not come down until the Devil promised Jack not to bother him for ten more years.

Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. He sent Jack off into the dark night with only a burning coal to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved-out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with it ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as “Jack of the Lantern,” and then, simply “Jack O’Lantern.”

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Wow. That was a neat story. Thanks for sharing!

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Trick or Treating is also not American.

An early precursor to trick-or-treating is believed to be "souling," the tradition of going door to door asking for "soul cakes," a treat similar to biscuits, in exchange for prayers for the dead in purgatory. It was done the night before All Souls Day on November 1.

While Americans are thought to have created Halloween, it was fully a Northern European thing until the Irish brought it to the United States. It lingered in the U.S. for decades before it began to take hold again world wide post internet.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

The real moral of the story here is that the devil is apparently a gullible jackass, lmao. He'd never survive the prank youtube channels of the modern day.

The Irish have some awesome legends, though. The wolfwalkers are my favorite! They also made the legend into a movie that is up there with Brother Bear and the Lion King. Highly recommend it https://youtu.be/d_Z_tybgPgg?feature=shared

[-] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/d_Z_tybgPgg?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, it has to do with a non-Christian religion, but to fundamentalists it just reduces down to satanism because they literally can't concieve of people not buying into their narrow-minded belief structure.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Irish Catholics associated it with a local myth. The priest is even more wrong once you hear the story.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Many Christians believe that all religions that don’t worship Christ are worshipping false idols. Which is about as worse as worshipping satan to them.

this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2023
99 points (97.1% liked)

World News

38979 readers
2170 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS