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I support Israel. It's time for the Palestinians to move out, forced or not. It'll suck for them to relocate and resettle, but at least we might finally have peace in the middle east. Better than more war.
what, that's ethnic cleansing.
Yes, but there is ethnic cleansing in all directions. If the conflict continues, ethnic cleansing. If a stable peace can be found in favor of Israel, ethnic cleansing. If a stable peace can be found in favor of Palestine, ethnic cleansing. A compromise? Ethnic cleansing. Change my mind.
What the fuck are you saying. It is entirely possible for people to coexist peacefully, like they did under the ottomans, under 1 secular state.
Maybe the situation has changed. Some parts of Palestine see themselves as opressed, see negotiations and compromise as futile. They want their land back. Some parts of Israel will not want to cede that without a fight. Others are worried of being suicide bombed in coexistence.
People in general can coexist peacefully. But in the current timeline, it isn't obvious how peace could be achieved without anyone moving.
All parts of Palestine are oppressed and see negotiations as futile because Israel does not negotiate in good faith. When compromising means giving up the right to return to the land you were kicked out of, can you really blame them for not wanting to compromise?
On top of this, if they're no longer oppressed, people no longer feel the need to turn to Hamas and other terrorist organizations.
Saying you support Israel for that reason is like saying you support apartheid in south Africa or colonial algeria because if you don't support them the people in power will be ethnically cleansed.
So what's the solution without any ethnical cleansing?
1 state secular solution, Palestinians have the same rights as isralis, Hamas and IDF people are tried and punished for war crimes, kick out all settlers.
Ok, that qualifies. Only question is how realistic that is. Requires lots of trust and giving up power while being tried for war crimes for IDF.