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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The real enemy that Russia is fighting here is NATO

I understand that

On their tally every dead Ukrainian is just as much a victory for them as a dead Russian

This I also agree with

Ukraine and Russia will still remain brotherly peoples

This, however, I cannot agree with. The whole hohol/moskal junk didn't start in 2022, nor 2014, nor even 2004 and orange "revolution". Hell, looking around, I'm not even sure Russia and Russia are "brotherly peoples"

Let the Europeans commit suicide by continuing to sanction themselves out of a supply of oil and gas

They're still receiving it. Sure, the standards of living might take a hit, but will it be as large of a hit as we experienced after USSR collapse? Large enough to shake people to awaken? I doubt it. Some petit bourgeoisie might get rekt and join us proles on the bottom, but the fat cats up top don't seem affected much.

it will be clear to the entire world who is a reliable business partner and who is not.

It's been clear for ages to no avail. Likewise with exposing western lies and atrocities

[-] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Honest question re Ukraine and Russia continuing to be "brotherly peoples:" what is sentiment of average Chechens towards Russia these days? From the outside, it looks as if they have largely realized the collective West was using them, and as a result the anger they had towards Russia has turned into anger at the west. I wonder if, following either (1) a Russian victory, (2) collapse of the Ukrainian government, or (3) Ukrainian victory leading only to IMF-imposed austerity, the Ukrainians could similarly realize that they were used, and become friendlier to Russia.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

About Ukraine, note the turn of events:

  • 1991, all the shit that happened
  • 2004, colour revolution putting the rabid russophobes and western puppets in power
  • After few years, Ukrainians elect president that promised normalisation
  • 2014, coup putting the rabid russophobes and western puppets in power
  • After few years, ukrainians again elect president that promised normalisation
  • 2024??? seems like 2023 or 2024 will bring another huge upheaval

So while i wouldn't say Ukrainians and Russians are brothers, not after century of chauvinist propaganda and now literal war, but they sure as hell don't want to be enemies and USA needs to coup them every decade to remind them of their place.

this post was submitted on 04 May 2023
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