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Human rights are edgy now
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Jews are from Judea, Arabs are from Arabia, the Arabs should give the Jews ALL their land back including Jordan, and the Africans all their land back, and fuck off back to Arabia :>/
Genetics and ancestry is a lot more messy than that.
Both Jews and Palestinians seem to have substantial native Levantine DNA with moderate admixtures from different groups.
If Ashkenazi Jews are indigenous to Israel despite having a significant amount of European maternal DNA, so are Palestinians. Genetically, Ashkenazim and Palestinians are cousins.
Shhh, your insulting the purity of their blood.
This is what always baffled me.
I'm a 2nd gen Palestinian American, I have more native Levant in me than most of these settler folks and I've never even been there.
This certainly doesn't sound like a racist, expansionist, authoritarian take. Why don't you speak a little more on what you'd like to do to the peoples of Arabia? I can't tell, do you consider them people?
Especially precious is that Jordan was never part of Judea in significant part.
PugJesus, stop making sense all the time.
It's a curse 😞
This idiot thinks North Africans are Arab invaders
And we should split all mixed people down the middle and scatter their limbs across their respective land? Great idea! *sharpens machete*
Give the Southern Levant back to the Canaanites!
You find me one, and we'll talk. The Jewish people's indiginousy is recorded right there in our DNA for anyone to see. But the Edge lords, Jew baiters, Nazis, Islamofascists, and Anarchists, don't want to have the real conversation about Arab colonialism, and land rights. Doesn't matter to us, at all, we're home now, and we aren't going anywhere without a fight to the last.
Wait, so the record is right there in their blood right? And it proves the land/ground/soil is theirs right? The blood is their right to the soil... Blood and soil? Where have I heard that one before?
The land isn't yours, it belongs to the Canaanites. What's with this Israeli colonialism on Canaanite land?
Biblical history isn't that great; the Torah was first written during the Babylonian captivity, and is generally agreed to have been composed from 600-300 BCE based off earlier oral traditions. Moses is generally placed ~1300 BCE - hundreds and hundreds of years before the first written Torah.
Archeologically, there's basically no evidence that supports the Exodus. Like any oral tradition passed down for the better part of a millennium, things got mythologized and expanded on.
Based off both archeology and genetics, Israelites, Phoenicians, Moabites, etc. are considered Canaanites. It's more of a broad linguistic and ethnic category than a specific kingdom.
Without a fight to the last American, that is! You're welcome for all our tax dollars, investments, and military power you've been using, by the way.
I guess you also want all the non-indigenous people in the Americas to move back to where their ancestors came from, too? England and Spain are gonna get really crowded.
GTFO with this racist bullshit. What you're calling for is called ethnic cleansing.
He actually straight up calls it a cleansing in a comment from one day ago:
So yeah, do your part and report this guy. I have multiple times and nothing has been done.
There's nothing to report in there. That comment is not against any rules.
who said I reported that? I just said he's called for cleansing and to report him. To be clear though, I do believe his words are in the wheelhouse of hate speech. It's a broad term though and open to interpretation.
Do you have no issue with the language that guy is using?
No, I think he's just accurately describing the situation. Hamas is a political entity, not a people
To each their own. To him Palestine is not a people, to you hamas is not a people, but it will definitely be people that are killed in the service of that view. You can try to sit on technicality but read some of the endless posts this dude writes and he sees no separation. Words carry weight and used in the context that it was I find it extremely hard to think a rational person would phrase things that way without the intended connotation.
It's not a matter of opinion that Hamas is not a people. They are a political organization.
Your interpretation is not rational so your expectations of a rational person are meaningless.
It's literally an organization made up of people and that's the extent of what I'm pointing out rhetorically. I give no shits about what you are other apologists consider "rational" as you engage in a bad faith argument from the jump. Go pull your debate club shtick on someone else.
This isn't bad faith, but rather how words work.
You are actually engaging in bad faith when you try to get someone's comment removed for speaking in a way that is consistent with international diplomacy.
Trying to ban a person because you disagree with them is childish and stupid.
I guess we'll see
My comment holds regardless of outcome from a mod, and if a mod is dumb enough to ban this person that just means the mod is abusing their authority due to inherent bias.
To be fair the Arab nations surrounding Israel has been calling for Jewish ethnic cleansing of the holy lands for the past 60 years.
Crimes against humanity do not stop being crimes against humanity just because someone else is also bad.
The Bible and all of history disagrees, but u do u.