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Obama criticizes Israel’s decision to cut off food and water to Gaza
(www.theguardian.com)
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I mean, I do understand him saying: “don’t cut off water and power to over a million civilians, because it will be counterproductive in the long term”.
But what he should really be saying is “don’t cut off water and power to over a million civilians because that’s fucking evil”.
How did we get to this position where no leaders of the West will stand up and call this out for what it is?
I understand it’s a complex situation, but treating an entire people like they’re subhuman is morally unacceptable. And I can’t fucking believe that the sodding Israelis - of all people - don’t know this.
"Evil" is incredibly subjective and doesn't convince people well enough. Next time you're in an argument with someone, call them evil and see how quickly you've convinced them.
I saw an interview a while back where Obama said he makes these exact types of statements because if you want other countries to do things you perceive as "good" it's more effective to convince them that it's beneficial for them.
You're probably right, but take a step back for a moment and think about how psychotic it is that "starving civilians is evil" is considered an unconvincing argument?
As soon as you have to explain why starving civilians is evil, or how not starving civilians will be a more beneficial, profitable, or productive outcome for the non-starved, you're already living in a dystopian hellhole that doesn't deserve to exist.