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ANKARA, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands and people.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How can that change my mind when HAMAS does the same? What sense does that make? Please, explain it to me.

Two sides. Both kill kids. Two sides same.

Where did I go wrong? Please explain.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you count? At what number do Palestinian deaths mean more? 5,000? 10,000? 100,000? Israel kills thousands. Hamas kills 200. Both sides! They are not the same.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You should keep the whole count, verified, not just count some things. That's like the definition of bias.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You’re deflecting. You know Israel has killed more. Your own bias is showing.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No. I don't know how many people have died, I can only read reporting that gives estimates, and the estimates come from sides in a war. A side fighting a war cannot be considered a trustworthy source, as winning the war is considered more important.

None of us can know. What you have inside you is not "knowledge". It's faith. It's based on a feeling you have, not evidence you can be truly certain of, because evidence that reliable does not exist.

Life is hard my friend. Sometimes it's so hard, it literally has no good answers.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pithy aphorisms don’t change the fact that Israel is the current aggressor, disproportionately dealing death. Eventually the world will see the truth.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Finally, I can agree with you. Israel is the current aggressor, that is true. Personally, I think they should be stopped from attacking Gaza asap, and a large international coalition army assembled in their place, to protect both the sides from each other. War criminals from both sides would need to be arrested and stand trial.

Tools up to and including a ground invasion would be necessary for any individual that refused to surrender for their trial.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m glad we agree.

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