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I think people have a hard time imagining what its going to be like. They assume we'll just wake up one day and it will be Mad Max outside your window. It will be much more incremental.
Covid is probably the best analogy, it was a shock, there were major reactions and societal changes, but it got better over a couple years. It will probably be a lot like that, except the getting better part.
It will just slowly get worse and worse until you can hardly recognize the world around you. Floods getting slightly worse every year, hurricanes getting a bit stronger, insurance going higher until people just stop buying it, famines, gas price increases, food shortages.
Remember how people flipped out about not being able to buy TP? Wait until you can't buy coffee, then bread, and clean water becomes scarce, thats when shit gets real and we revert to survival of the fittest, or who has the most ammo.
Politicians will promise quick and easy solutions, none will work. We're in for a less comfortable, convenient world probably in most of our lifetimes. I'll be moving north, and at least +500 ft above sea level.
Don't forget shitloads of migrants and refugees fleeing areas that are unsuitable for living because of flooding or other disasters.
Yeah that is going to be a huge factor in reducing the quality of life. If people think we have issues with overwhelming migration now, they are in for a surprise when it reaches into the billions of people with no other choice
The reality is Western countries aren't going to bother accommodating climate refugees. Full on Fascism is still relatively fringe, but when your average person starts to feel the real fear and insecurity from the climate crisis it will be embraced. Walls and detention centers will be expanded, those seeking refuge in the "civilized" world will be met with bullets and gas chambers. There will be no safe havens.
Where ya headed? Michigan, Minnesota or Alaska? I’m thinking of beating the rush and moving straight to Antarctica.
Probably WA, although Minnesota and Michigan both have appeal.
The problem with your supposition is that the supply chain recovered and everyone got their toilet paper eventually. In the coming collapse, there's no toilet paper again ever.
You can do what I did. Move to a geologically stable area, make a fortress, not a house, and get solar panels and your own cistern for water. A pro grade freeze dryer so you can build up a food supply. And enough guns and bullets to hold what's yours. Oh and bidets on all your toilets, no toilet paper ever again, plus your pooper is considerably cleaner. Which as a bonus is wonderful for the environment as it cuts down on dead trees.
Yup, just look at what happened in Acapulco after it was hit by Hurricane Otis, people started looting and the security forces were helpless. Or in Greece when people blamed and hunted down refugees for causing wild fires.
On a larger scale, there will be wars over water or resources, crop failures, great famine, climate refugees
Going for north isn't a great idea, remember the wild fires in BC? Also there's scientific journal where they run simulations, the northern part of America, Europe experiencing a deep freeze.
and other than figuring out how to make a quick profit...i doubt anyone will do anything until it is much much too late.