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London set for massive pro-Palestinian protest demanding Gaza ceasefire
(www.independent.co.uk)
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So this is definitely justifying:
while killing 10 times more civilians, babies, kids and women and causing immensely more suffering for the innocents.
You can't be a genius to see that one evil doesn't give you the right or the moral high ground to commit even greater evil.
Demonstrably not happening, as there are aid convoys in south gaza right now.
I think this is really shitty of Egypt, Jordan, etc to do, yes. Israel and the US tried to get them to take refugees. Took forever to even get them to send aid.
The rest is pretty typical of urban combat, so no, not genocide. If you want civilians to not die in an urban warzone, you ask them to leave the warzone. Urban fighting is ludicrously dangerous.
They let a token number of trucks in to give them a talking point... just like you used it now.
70 trucks were let in since October 7th. The UNRWA had something like 200-500 trucks going in daily before the war...
So normally there would have been 11,000 truck deliveries for humanitarian aid in this window, now there are only 70.. 0.6% of need is satisfied, prewar need at that....
All to give you a talking point.
Are you kidding. How many trucks have been allowed. Do you think they are enough?!? We are talking about 2.5 Mln people.
You are writing all this from the comfort of your own house, people there don't have a roof over their heads. You can't even fathom what conditions they are living in. Are they all deserve to suffer?
How many more civilians need to die to condemn Israel? 10K, 20K, 50K, 1M?
It's weird you think Israel is the cause here
I would prefer none of this happen, but Hamas does not value human life. It's truly tragic.
I find it very strange that your inference is that I don't care.
That's easily proven false by simply looking at the efforts they've put in, whether you believe they're sufficient or not (I personally do not).
Meanwhile Hamas literally forces civilians into "martyrdom" at gunpoint.
Your meany words aren't going to hurt my feelings. Let it out, bud. I'm here for you.
What about humanitarian cease fire, claiming that IDF is doing sufficient in this conflict is ridiculous. They are bombing the shit out of Palestine.
Nowhere is safe, the number of fatalities is 8000, not to mention the psychological trauma or the number of injured people, with nowhere to escape. People are trapped and scared, and they are reduced to subhuman beings by the treatment of Israel, who don't have elementary human rights.
You have never ever been subject to such an intense bombardment, nor living in such conditions.
And the worst is that this war won't achieve anything , you can't put people to the corner and not expect that those people will not try to bite you again. Where is your humanity, your empathy with people? Or are you also thinking that all Arabs should be exterminated so that you can live an even more comfortable life?
I don't believe Israel is providing sufficient protection, but a cease-fire is nonsensical and only helps the aggressor.
Your insults won't ever tilt me. I don't lack empathy. I simply accept reality as it is.
Could you point out to me, where exactly I have offended you?
Are you then accepting the fact that Israel is mistreating Palestinians for decades, and is committing a lot of human rights violations? https://www.yesh-din.org/en/ for some perspective.
And are you seriously expecting that after the hostilities end, normal Palestinians would just forget and forgive everything they had been put through and open a new page? It is a bit cynical but I don't think that this offensive would achieve anything but even more radicalization and division. The best way to fight Hamas and organisations like this is to provide long lasting peace and treat your neighbours respectfully.
Hamas is fuelled by hatred and killing a lot of civilians and kids won't help for its eradication.
You can't offend me. I wouldn't worry about that.
Hamas very seriously will not exist within a few months. We can discuss the morality of that, but the reality is that Hamas is not an idea, it is an organization with structured logistics. Dismantling that structure kills Hamas as an organization, even if members of Hamas are still at large.
Remind me in 3 months. I can imagine this would age like fine milk.
The reality is that in 3 months casualties would be 2-3 times higher if not more and Gaza's infrastructure would be even in a more dire situation. And people would be even more polarised, radicalized with no constructive plans how to achieve peace in the long term.
In 3 months the Gazans people will be free from Hamas's boot on their throat. It is my hope that Israel recognizes this opportunity for what it is. I agree they have not done a good job demonstrating that so far.
I would also leave this here:
So to put things into perspective, for 3 straight weeks only 117 trucks carrying humanitarian aid entered the enclave.
Not to mention that the same officials are constantly trying to downplay how grave the situation there is. And today's looting of humanitarian supplies only comes to prove that people there are really desperate!
Yeah, they let the aid trucks in, the bombed the aid after it had been delivered.