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So according to your logic, the Israelian gunman is a terrorist, because he murdered a random civilian based on racial hatred.
If it was unprovoked (likely, but I'll hold out until more evidence comes to light), and it was a random civilian (sounds likely), and it was based on racial hatred (yeah, that tracks 100%), then yes - this is terrorism. He'll probably only get charged with murder because it was only one person, but that's a failing of legal codes rather than moral ones.
But according to your explanation what happened on 7th of October is also not an act of terrorism because it was provoked by years of ill treatment, human rights violations and targeted killings, source Wikipedia, countless of human rights watch groups, etc. (I am not trying to justify the killings that Hamas did at all. What they did was horrible!)
I am just saying that there are double standards when it comes to violence justifications. So Israel is morally right to kill 5 times more civilians and counting, destroy civilian infrastructure, people's houses, create humanitarian crises, but when Palestine is committing some violence that's terrorism.
Don't you see how cynical all this is, human life is priceless no matter religion, ethnicity, the colour of the skin or the sexual orientation of the person! And we should value this equally and not have double standards.
I will also leave this here: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/category/occupation-policies/
Alright dude keep justifying the genocidal occupation while you sit on your couch typing on your laptop. While your at it go have a fucking pumpkin spice latte, might make it smell better up there.
Dude are you watching me? I am sitting on my couch typing on my laptop. While you're out making such a difference, can you also pick up eggs and milk?
On a more serious note, calling it a genocidal occupation precludes any discussion. It's signalling that you believe that Palestinians are starving and dying and are in danger of being completely wiped out. There really isn't any evidence supporting that over the last 75 years except Hamas propaganda.
Calling out a half century occupation and an ongoing genocide does not mean that at all, there is no discussion precluded except stop the genocide and end the occupation.
But good luck to you. Keep flinging shit until something sticks? It’s already all over your face.
It’s not a good look.
People who talk about genocide usually agree with the whole river to the sea thing which is literal genocide.
For anyone else reading who is unfamiliar: "from the river to the sea, we will be free" is a slogan used by many Palestinians that refers to their desire to have a single Palestinian state with no Jews at all. It is a call to violence.
If you're just reading the propaganda and think there's a literal genocide going on, go ahead and read about the Armenian genocide. Then compare the actions, and how many have passed. Israel sometimes has incredibly oppressive policies, but they are far from a genocide and raising that accusation is particularly hurtful given the Jewish people's history of the Holocaust.
Keep going off on random unrelated talking points. If you support the Israeli governments actions and Netanyahu, you are a supporter of genocide.
The whole world agrees that Israel is committing genocide and that Netanyahu is making decisions that are just putting Israeli civilians further into harms way.
If you don’t think leveling whole neighborhoods full of civilians is genocide then you don’t get to participate in the conversation anymore. Bye bye little boy. Grow up.
I don't think leveling empty buildings is genocide.
I think killing an entire ethnic group is genocide.
Perhaps you should learn to value human life rather than possessions.
Recently Netanyahu has quoted from First Samuel 15:3 in a speech, saying, “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. ‘Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys’”
The invocation of this biblical passage serves not only as a historical reference but also as a genocidal lens through which the Prime Minister views the current conflict.
Put simply, Bibi is calling for genocide.
What's the proper and just provocation for legal murder?
if it was provoked then it might only be murder, not terrorism.