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What are your takes on consensual sex work?
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this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
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It's a lovely lemmy bug. I've had to teach myself, never stop to vote on things elsewhere or kiss your typing goodbye, also hope the thread being updated with a new comment doesn't bork things.
I never said any particular focus on sex work is needed. I am not seeing sex work as this great big threat at the forefront some people seem to presume I am saying it as. I am simply pointing out, the Marxist position on sex work. Sex work perpetuates misogyny. You cannot abolish misogyny without abolishing it. People act like because I push back against the notion with vigor that this is okay and guys can guilt free have sex with women for money, that I'm spending all my time seething at sex workers, that I have a little book and it's numbered enemies of women and the proletariat and at the top in red underlined 5 times with angry faces is sex work and that's simply not the case. It is a common point of liberal infiltration in thinking I think. It's not perhaps the most common one in the western left, but it's up there and it really seems to stir some passions and not for wrong reasons.
I am not interested in trying to make anyone trying to survive under capitalism feel bad. I am simply stating the Marxist, feminist position on what must come after. I am attacking those who insist one of the following: a) that it is okay to pay for sex, comrades do not do that, if a woman is in need of money and in that industry and you can afford to pay her, you can afford to give her the money as aid, b) that sex work is not problematic, it's totally feminist and should and will exist after the revolution. Which is false, dangerous, misleading.
There are those who perpetuate these things out of ignorance, genuine misogyny, material self-interest, and guilt and who are quite insistent upon spreading this frankly incorrect thinking that is damaging, dangerous, wrong, and perpetuates misogyny as I have outlined at length.
Now, frankly I have to say I've by this point said my piece (at great length) and I don't think further conversation is likely to alter my thinking, change your mind, or the minds of on-lookers. So I hope this has been constructive and perhaps educational as I will not be replying further here. Thanks and good luck.
I see what you're saying. I didn't intend to make you feel that you needed to explain yourself in the way you did here; I think after reading through your comments again I understood much more clearly where you were coming from, and I appreciate you expanding on that even further for my benefit. My mind isn't changed completely, but you do make very good points that I'd like to reflect on. I also wasn't under the impression that you were trying to make anyone feel bad, and I'm sorry if I came off that way after this last response. I think a lot of my questions and statements were more rhetorical, I wasn't trying to challenge you or change your mind, genuinely. Sometimes the way I express myself can come off more confrontational than it's meant to be (to the exclusion of my first comment to you that was a dick comment and I feel bad for that). Anyway I respect the disengagement, and I appreciate your effort especially if it was frustrating for you, wish it wasn't