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Tech bros' attitude to female colleagues stuck in dark ages
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No, that's often the label people throw on me. It's the condescension of thinking that word adds anything of value, and that it would be the first time anyone's heard it. It's the deviation of what I considered to be an authentic exchange into whatever ego-driven pointless parallel of mansplaining that was.
Excuse my ignorance but… what?
That really makes no sense at all. What word are you talking about? Intersectionality? Or woke? Because you’re wrong if you’re talking about intersectionality.
I am talking about intersectionality. It's become a buzz word. Case in point, you really thought you were doing something by its mere mentioning, and "teaching me" about its existence.
Jesus. So you have decided that because people don’t represent intersectionality well that it’s now just a dumb concept even though you, naturally, touched on it by recognizing where sexism and racism intersect….
Are you just one of those people who gets stuck on the use of a particular language and rather than address an issue you just throw the whole conversation out? Like, come on… it being used as a buzzword does not make intersectionality unimportant at all.
You see how the bridge based on authentic painful experiences I was trying to have with the original commenter has now turned into nonsense about this term?
Why would you ever think someone on Lemmy hasn't heard of this term before? Let's say someone hadn't, you really think the meaning behind it is something anyone over 10 wouldn't have thought of by themselves by now?
Do you think "teaching" someone about this container of a term was really the right timing in this scenario?
Person 1: painful experience
Person 2: sounds similar to mine
Person 3: Let me presume you haven't heard about this buzzword. You have now just discovered this great word thanks to meee. Nevermind that it's an obvious idea that should occur to anyone with basic empathy and intelligence, but especially to people that have experienced prejudice. You are welcome.
It turned into nonsense with your eye roll. You brought it here by being overtly and intentionally patronizing.
Why would I assume people on lemmy haven’t heard the term? I mean, have you seen who’s on here? There’s plenty of reason to be unsure. And I’m wildly confused about how me pointing out how you’re engaging with intersectionality is the problem.
A lot of people learn and make connections by seeing comment threads they aren’t a part of. Me pointing out that what you did was touching on intersectionality is as much for those readers as any opportunity to make the connection for you that there might have been. People seeing these things in action and real time is a huge addition to making the connections the break past biases and prejudices. It’s moments like that where they read a thread followed by your comment and they see the similarities, but without a direct pointer to intersectionality might keep the same bias against it because, even though they understand it they don’t connect it and continue to shit on the concept as a whole and refuse to engage in conversation at all. Maybe they just send an eye roll emoji when someone brings up the term. But pointing it out directly might make the difference for them to be able to actually engage in the conversation later.
I came at it with good faith and I’m sorry I said it in a way that didn’t sit right with you, but I had no way of knowing anything that you do or don’t know on the topic. Maybe I should have phrased it differently and rather than saying ‘in case you haven’t heard the term before’ I could have simply said ‘yay for intersectionality’ and it wouldn’t have been offensive to you? Idk. I said it trying to not make any assumptions and clearly that failed.
Uggghh.
If you weren't aware, mansplaining means a man explaining something that's common knowledge in a condescending way, implying someone is ignorant or naive about the subject.