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In a rare announcement, the US military said a guided missile submarine has arrived in the Middle East, a message of deterrence clearly directed at regional adversaries as the Biden administration tries to avoid a broader conflict amid the Israel-Hamas war.

US Central Command said on social media Sunday that an Ohio-class submarine was entering its area of responsibility. A picture posted with the announcement appeared to show the sub in the Suez Canal northeast of Cairo.

The social media post did not name the sub, but the US Navy has four Ohio-class guided missile submarines, or SSGNs, which are former ballistic missile subs converted to fire Tomahawk cruise missiles rather than nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles.

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This seems... escalatory, inflammatory.

There's no way the US military starts firing missiles into Gaza. Who exactly is this message aimed at? Iran?

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

As soon as the attack on October the 7th happened, the US essentially panicked, as this would probably result in instability in the whole region with possible Iranian intervention. They already have an aircraft carrier and several destroyers. They have a whole fleet near Iran if I’m not mistaken (in international waters, obviously). On the other hand, they’re publicly telling Israel not to escalate the conflict. Clearly the last thing Biden wants is for the violence to spread out

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it's in response to this event specifically:

IDF Arrow intercepts ballistic missile fired from Yemen

Probably making a public stayment about the submarine was intended as a direct threat against this group and any others with similar intentions. The message is basically "stop that or we wil stop you".

Tomahawks would be the weapon of choice for destroying land-based ballistic missile launching systems.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Iran, Hezbollah, and Houthi are the primary audience, but the message is also intended for Russia (indirectly).

This matches up with the public statements by Biden, Blinken, and other US officials that all the forces currently being added to the Middle East are there as deterrence. The US have been running drone surveillance flights over Gaza for a few weeks - I assume to corroborate the intelligence being handed to them by Israel.

The other half of this message is to Russia - likely in response to their withdrawl from the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. I'm not confident enough to speculate on what the intended message is, but I'm certain it was intended for them as well.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's just... It's a bad idea to walk into a room and wave a gun around, unless you plan to actually use the gun.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

As an individual person yes. Geopolitics work differently.

It's a big thing to show off your military. Dances, parades, war games, training exercises, and stuff like this. In some cases, you can even attack and it won't be considered a declaration of war - if you attack an empty post, it sends a signal that you don't want to escalate, but that you need to "respond" to satisfy some internal pressure or to save face.

Using a nuke on an empty spot would be a bit extreme though. Let's hope no one is crazy enough to actually do that or worse.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh, this is probably why:

IDF Arrow intercepts ballistic missile fired from Yemen

Probably the public statement about the submarine full of cruise missiles is intended as a direct threat to this group and any others with similar intentions. The message is basically "stop that or we will stop you".

The Tomahawks on the submarine would be the weapon of choice for destroying land-based ballistic missile launching systems.

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