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Putin Unleashes Record Bombing in Ukraine as the World Watches Gaza
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Lemmy is just weirdly pro-Hamas and anti-Israel.
Don't get me wrong, I think what Israel is doing sucks, but what Hamas is doing is equally bad. This is really a both-sides situation.
Hamas isn't Palestine. Israeli gov isn't Israel.
When you make simple distinctions like this, things get less complicated.
The impulse in westerners who want to support the Palestinian people against genocide trying to separate them from Hamas comes off to me as deeply condescending and obtuse. The majority of Palestinians support Hamas. And they have every reason to. Not that most of them were alive and old enough to vote for it the last time the Zionists granted them the privilege, but the vote between the PLO and Hamas when it occurred was between a group of collaborators who negotiated away any hope of returning to their homes and a group that -actually fights back against the people who killed your entire extended family-. Of course they support Hamas. Who else do they have to put their hopes into? You? At your keyboard? What's your suggestion to them?
In 2005 Gazans had complete control, without a siege over the region. The siege started in 2007. They had their own government and their own freaking autonomy over themselves. That's just facts, whether they line up with your agenda or not.
The siege started after Hamas, an actual terrorist organization that advocates for deadly jihad over all of Israel, gained power in a violent coup, murdering the existing fatah members.
Not to mention that during the duration of said siege those 2 million had water, food and electricity provided by Israeli tax money, not that it makes the situation amazing for Palestinians. But no, that means that they have drinking water and food (at least when they don't slaughter 1400 people from the hand that feeds them)
Reply all you like I won't discuss anything with someone so brainwashed that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with him is a fucking Nazi.
You're truly a disgrace to humanity if you compare this to fascists. You're either extremely ignorant, extremely brainwashed, or just have blind hate towards the west. No matter which of those you are, that's scummy and oh how much I hope people with actual power in this world aren't like you.
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words."
Hey look at the Trump supporter using their mating call "You call everyone who disagrees with you a nazi"
No. You're literally a nazi. You support a fascist ethnostate that's in the middle of committing a genocide as we speak. We disagree on fascism and genocide. You're a nazi if the word has any meaning in it at all.
And I hope you follow your fucking leader, nazi. Understand what I mean by that. Follow your leader.
You say that like it's a nationality and not a title for people who were ethnically cleansed from their homes and driven to a refugee camp. Typical nazi rhetoric. History doesn't exist. The meanings of words are arbitrary. Never
What a stupid fucking child speaking out of class. "They had their own government." Fucking really, you fucking idiot? And what did their 'government' have the authority to do? Field an army? Collect taxes? Shut the fuck up if you don't know a single fucking thing about this shit, idiot. As if you give a damn about the words coming out of your mouth in the first place, anti-semite.
And this is your justification for committing genocide, you piece of shit nazi? Follow your leader.
Straight up nazi shit. "Bite the hand that feeds them" fucking wow. https://imeu.org/article/putting-palestinians-on-a-diet-israels-siege-blockade-of-gaza Literal fucking nazi shit. This is the fucking charity you think the sub human dogs should be thanking their superior human masters for. Deliberate starvation.
Nevermind how Israel would bomb any water treatment plants the Palestinians would build themselves. Nevermind the fact that they refused to allow construction materials in "because Hamas" so they couldn't rebuild infrastructure. Did you not know that, idiot, or were you simply omitting facts that complicated your genocidal desires, nazi? Same difference. You want to kill a million children.
Israel is killing many, many more Palestinians than Hamas is killing Israelis and it has been this way for decades.
Also, doing wrong when done "in retaliation" is still doing wrong.
So... We agree that Israel killing civilians in response to Hamas's attack is wrong, just as Hamas killing civilians in response to persecution by Israel is wrong?
Yep.
Weird how you misconstrue criticizing Israel's genocide with support for Hamas tho. Very concerning.