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[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

This is something that voters would remember. These people got into office under the pre-Roe thinking where abortion was a convenient wedge issue. Overturning ROE was the barking dog catching the car and all steam went out of the whole works as a result. The people have shown that most never actually minded abortion in the first place. If these legislatures manage to so overtly overturn the will of the people, I suspect that we'll see a change in some membership come next election.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Let's not oversell this. OH #1 only passed 55-45. 52% turnout is far better than a normal odd-year election, but 55-45 is hardly a blowout, especially because it depended on 70-30 wins in the big cities. A huge swath of Ohio's regular voters are perfectly happy to go along with abortion restrictions, and a sizeable number of staunch pro-choicers will show up to keep Roe in the dirt. Any district that doesn't include a major metro, abortion is still a convenient wedge issue.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Let’s not oversell this. OH #1 only passed 55-45.

Not true. The split is actually 56.6-43.4. An almost 57% majority is a solid bipartisan bloc. Not saying there aren't pockets of resistance, especially in rural counties, but if you're parsing details you need to refer to correct statistics.

[-] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That is how pretty much all states, not just Ohio, are layed out. The USA is massive in terms of land. Ohio is roughly the size of Germany. The play is to get 60-70-80 percent in major Metropolitan areas because the rest of the state is cows and corn. Only 7 counties had more than 100k votes cast in total with the three counties home to Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati accounting for almost 1/3 of the total votes cast. All 7 of those counties voted in favor of issue 1. Any district that doesn't have a major metro area is not viable. These areas are bleeding money and jobs and losing population. Eventually they will lose enough and Ohio will lose enough congressional seats that it will not be able to be reliably gerrymandered as heavily because of the population being so heavily centered in 3 locations. Ohio was one of the first test for GOP gerrymandering and it is a first look at what will happen when that is the only way they can win.

[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't live in a large ohio city and even still, the city has more people living in it than the surrounding 4 counties combined.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's important to keep things in context. As far as I'm aware, anytime abortion has been on the ballot, it has won. Not only won, but increased voter turnout and improved the results for democrats on the same ballot.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That's basically in line with polling of about 60% in favor of abortion in general, and decreasing as you get later into pregnancy before adding a cut off.

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