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To help contribute, here's the only meme I've ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it's even more appropriate.

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It was so insulting for him to come out and say he isn't a fan of the source material. Was it too much to ask to find someone who's passionate about Star Trek? I know they're out there.

[-] armus@startrek.website 45 points 1 year ago

Exactly! If he was not a fan of any of the 60 years of source material perhaps he should’ve stepped aside and let someone who cares about Star Trek contribute to it

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Imo, instead of asking why he didn't step aside, I think the fault is on the studio executives for wanting to go in that direction in the first place. They clearly wanted a different direction to classic Trek, otherwise JJ wouldn't have been their choice.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

the guy who directed rogue one and the andor tv series isnt much of a fan of star wars, and those are two of the most acclaimed star wars projects since disney bought star wars

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Although I do really like both of those and would probably put them at the top of the current generation of SW, they feel much less like SW properties and a lot more like they're wearing a SW skin. Which, you know, is fine since it's actually good and doesn't destroy the property. Even if you don't like Andor, they're still making a ton of just regular Star Wars shit.

JJ basically derailed Trek for those of us that actually like the type of thing Trek was doing for nearly a decade. Basically took until SNW to get an actual Trek show.

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Star Wars is samurai movies with a skin on it. The whole thing is borrowed, in space. So it’s okay to have stories like Andor, Rogue One and Mando, etc because they mesh well with the general design of the universe.

Lower Decks is as far as Star Trek as it can be, and yet it fits very well in the universe. Because it respects itself and respect the source material.

JJ never respected the source material and the universe.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Pretty much. SW is a very "hero's journey" story. Somewhere else in this thread, I posted this:

And although I would say that Andor is proof you can do cool things with a Star Wars background, at its heart SW is a conceptually fairly simple. Young person with the help of wise wizard and plucky band must master his powers to face down the evil tyrant. Now, is that the OG trilogy? Prequels? Sequels? LoTR? The Matrix?

That, but in a space samurai/western backdrop. Andor not only respects the canon, it explores it. Sure, it's not telling a hero's journey tale, but it's grabbing a piece of existing canon and enhancing it if anything.

This is where JJ I think fucked up with the Trek canon.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It is, or at least was, a strangely popular thing n Hollywood for people working on franchises to claim they knew nothing about them. A kind of “too cool for all this” vanity they were trying to project.

[-] Magrath@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

So he isn't a fan of Star Trek? Or is he talking about the post Discovery stuff?

He said this back around the time he was making (or marketing) the movies, so it had to have been in the late 00s.

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