235
'No Possibility' of Gaza Cease-Fire, Biden Says as 500+ Former Staffers Demand One
(www.commondreams.org)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
235 points (78.2% liked)
World News
39004 readers
2786 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
So, you didn’t like, or understand the headline, and that’s the author’s fault. Fair point. It doesn’t make it grammatically incorrect though. Email the writer and let them know, if it means that much to you.
So they were grammatically correct with their intentionally misleading headline. Glad everyone reached a consensus.
Because it’s grammatically correct it’s not intentionally misleading. “As” is the keyword. Run has 645 meanings. Just because people interpret a phrase differently doesn’t mean it’s wrong, or malicious.
Except that it is obviously both wrong and malicious.
I proved that it is not grammatically wrong, can you prove that it is malicious?
It leaves out context, intentionally. If this was a fox news headline, I'd say the same thing, and you'd agree.
The context is in the article. It could be argued that it is in the headline too, but some obviously have interpreted it differently.
Edit: Replace “as” with “while” and maybe you’ll understand.
Indeed.
Edit: You are just being condescending and not pointing out anything meaningful.
I’m not trying to be condescending. I’m just incapable of explaining this in a satisfactory way. Those criticizing the headline are not pointing out anything meaningful. The information in the article correlates with the headline. Biden has the ability to endorse a ceasefire, “while” his former staffers are urging him to do so.
You are incapable of explaining it because it is an incredibly common and recognizable representation of a bad faith headline.
Summarizing an article and writing a headline isn’t easy. I know from experience. It may be in bad faith, it doesn’t appear that way to me. It doesn’t detract from the relevant information in the article.
FWIW I think the administration could, should, and (unfortunately) probably won't do more to support a cease fire.
I just don't think my opinion justifies misrepresenting what actually occurred in a headline intentionally.
And the author of the headline did. They knew. And if you have experience, you know they knew.