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When I first joined Kbin I posted threads due to being a reddit refugee but have started posting microblogs as time went on. I have also noticed some magazines have more threads while others have more microblog posts. For example kbinmeta has more threads while the most active magazine I moderate has mostly microblogs.

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[-] ContentConsumer9999@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

As someone who's never really utilized hashtags, do you have any suggestions?

[-] daredevil@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I might first suggest looking into a magazine/community that you're interested in. Scrolling the microblog section of that magazine might lend some insight on which keywords appear the most frequently or resonate the most with you. Pick one out, then try clicking on it or searching it with either the built in search function in the navigation bar at the top, or by checking out https://kbin.social/tag/cats as an example. Maybe even explore https://kbin.social/tag/hashtag. By replacing the tag in those links, you can check out posts containing tags with a bit more freedom, as some of the federation issues can be mitigated by searching this way. Trying to use some of these hashtags to find out specific information regarding questions or other interests, perhaps. If you have any further questions, you're free to reach out again.

[-] ContentConsumer9999@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the insight! I was mainly wondering about how I should use hashtags on my own microblogs and comments but I didn't even think about using them as browsing tools. Could you maybe give more tips about the former?

[-] daredevil@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure. I'll try to use your reply as an example.

Thanks for the insight! I was mainly wondering about how I should use #hashtags [...]

As you said so yourself, you are mainly wondering how you should use hashtags. As such, I would use a hashtag to highlight this key point of information. This is so that other users who may have questions regarding how to use hashtags can directly find posts that may have had the same question.

[...] on my own #microblogs and #comments but I didn't even think about using them as browsing tools.

The importance of microblogging will vary from user to user. However, I'd imagine they are/will play a big role in the #fediverse (I chose to tag fediverse here, because it's a large topic that others may seek clarification and perspectives regarding the idea and the number of ways it may pop up in conversation).

Could you maybe give more #tips about the former?

Lastly, I might consider tagging tips here. Say someone is looking up information regarding how to use a #hashtag. Well, if they stumble upon this post, they might be inclined to do a subsequent search by combining any number of the tags you/I have mentioned. This will allow them to either join keywords to perform more refined searches, or incentivize them to delve into related topics they might not have otherwise considered. For example, they might combine #fediverse #tips to find more information about, well, fediverse tips. They might also now search #fediverse #microblog #tips as well.

[-] ContentConsumer9999@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the #hashtag #tips! I'll try and use them to enrich my contributions to the #fediverse.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

they might be inclined to do a subsequent search by combining any number of the tags you/I have mentioned

I use hashtags to see if an article/story has already been submitted, but how do you search on multiple hashtags? eg #broadway AND #sondheim

[-] daredevil@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Entering both tags with whitespace to separate them is what I had in mind. Using the tags you asked about together brings up your post as the first result, for example.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That doesn't work for me though. Entering

https://kbin.social/tag/sondheim broadway

produces zero results. What am I doing wrong?

[-] daredevil@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apologies, I misunderstood your earlier question. My previous response had the search bar at the top in mind, not by browsing through https://kbin.social/tag/*. At the moment, I'm not aware of a way to search multiple tags using that specific method. While I did make some proposals for searches, I hope there will be ways to add further granularity to searches. Making information easily accessible regarding search syntax would also be very handy. Some examples would be Duckduckgo's bangs, Discord's search syntax, and Duckduckgo/Google's ability to search within specific sites (as in, site:reddit.com). I would hope that this could translate to /kbin's search via targeting specific magazines, users, microblogs, comments, etc. Perhaps one day.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks Daredevil. Hmm. While the following search:

https://kbin.social/search?q=broadway+sondheim

does produce my post, the search query seems to act as a logical OR rather than a logical AND. Ie, it returns posts with tag #broadway OR #sondheim. Is there a way of constructing a search with a logical AND?

Further, this search:

https://kbin.social/search?q=broadway+lesmis

should produce any number of posts, but returns nil results.

Eg, this post is tagged with both #broadway AND #lesmis, but does not appear:

https://kbin.social/m/Musicals/t/553845/Have-There-Ever-Been-Two-Productions-of-the-Same-Show

And there are a number of posts tagged with #lesmis: https://kbin.social/tag/lesmis which, one would assume, should also appear in the search results.

So searching for single tag queries seems to work well, but searching for text queries is inconsistent.

Unless... using the search bar ONLY searches the body of the post, rather than also the associated tags? Whereas searching for tags ONLY searches for tags attached to a post, but not the text of the post itself? If so, then it would be great if kbin had the ability to do logical AND searches on tags to help narrow down results.

[-] daredevil@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, #search #functionality and #syntax on #kbin has room to grow, I completely agree. While I've tried getting familiar with it in the past, I am by no means an authority on the subject. In fact, this back-and-forth was already helpful for teaching me a bit more. If you feel strongly about this, I might suggest bringing it up here, so that Ernest can look into it when he has time. However, if you'd rather not, then I may find some time to try putting something together later.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks DD - will raise a Codeberg issue in the next day or so (just in the middle of work right now).

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