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I live in New Zealand so me rambling about "the fifth" would probably make them call Social Services to come and help me since I would seem to be suffering from a mental health event.
Either that or they would think I was trolling and send me on my way with a stern reminder that wasting police time is a criminal offence.
I've seen videos filmed in NZ of people ranting about their constitutional rights.
You're right though, they'd assume you're either a nutter or a troll.
@Ilovethebomb yeah I met a "Trump supporter" here in NZ once. If we have a lot of them, it's probably an indication that we're underfunding mental health and education.
Well they do have rights, it's just their constitution is not one singular document. Kinda like us in Australia with our "implied rights".
But yeah anyone going on about them is most likely the 'Sovereign Citizens' sort. Dunno how the fuck that concept has spread around the world so much.
So New Zealand doesn’t have a concept of the courts can’t make you testify against yourself? That surprises me.
Of course we do.
But it derives from common law via the New Zealand Bill of Rights and has nothing whatsoever to do with the US Constitution's amendments.
Thank you for helping to prove my point. When the OP was saying take the fifth he was talking in a genetic way. In other words walking into the police station and taking that countries variation of the fifth. He just didn't bother typing it fully out like that because it was obvious what his point was. It's obvious that new Zealand doesn't have the literal fifth amendment but they have the equivalent of it. Again thank you for helping to prove my point.
When I asked "doesn't new Zealand have that concept" I new they did. I was trying to get you to understand what the op was trying to say.
@andrewta ooookay... next time maybe just make your point yourself, it would save me the trouble of replying unnecessarily.
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"The fifth" is American. They have the same or similar concept in other countries, they just have different names for it than "the fifth amendment".
Plead "the fifth" in NZ and they'll tell you that you watch too much American television.
I know that. I was trying to get him to understand that the op was talking in a generic sense. Both op and myself realize that new Zealand has an equivalent concept of the fifth. Op wasn't trying to say walk in and literally say "plead the fifth" but walk in and do the equivalent of that.
People get way to literal when they don't need to be.
That's the second most American centric thing I've read today.
Even those that are complaining about the op using the term "the fifth" knew what it basically translated to,
Nope, never heard of it.
The US isn't the centre of the world.
You personally might not have heard about it. Look at the other comments. It's obvious most did.