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THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
~~Murder is premeditated.~~
Nvm
You don’t think that the offending officer was sporting wood on the convoy to the raid location thinking about all the possible killing that was about to occur? Because I think he was.
He went there armed and trained looking for someone in particular, ready to use deadly force. Take away the badge and you'd have a murder charge
This is literally what police are. They're citizens we grant extra power to.
The issue here is that they're using the power inappropriately.
First-Degree Murder
Premeditated, intentional killings (like stalking someone before murdering them)
Capital Crimes or Felony Murder
Second-Degree Murder
An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry)
A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life
I'm not really sure if you are simply ignorant or being intentionally disingenuous. Either way, you are wrong. There are different counts & legal standards for those counts specifically because of the fact that not all murder is premeditated.
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/difference-between-first-second-degree-murder/
Oh i forgot about second degree
No worries, so did the cop
They planned the raid, they knew
Yes, and?
When you are a group of people who are empowered to use deadly force the moment you feel your life is threatened even when you are the ones who created the threatening situation, and you choose to bash in someone's door at 5:30 AM, "to conduct a search warrant for drug paraphernalia and marijuana possession" you have to know that you are likely going to be shooting someone that day, because if someone awakens to their door bashing in at that time of day, regardless of whether they have anything to be found by the cops, the fact that some cops "announced" themselves unheard while they were sleeping isn't going to stop many people from arming themselves and confronting the threat.
Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was acquitted for just this reason.
It's not fucking clairvoyance, it's common sense. If you don't opt for a plan where that outcome is less likely, you've gone there with intent to murder as far as I'm concerned.
So they accidentally broke into a home and murdered a child?
I don't think it would count as premeditated unless the cop went there specifically with the intention to kill that child.
However, it would still qualify for 2nd degree murder which requires intent to harm, but not premeditation.
I am not a lawyer, I just have access to google. I found this. If any of you actually know what you're talking about feel free to correct me