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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it just me or does the author just… not really spend any time trying to defend forced birth? Like, other than quoting counterarguments to abortion defences. It’s like he’s sort of assuming everyone already has ideas about why abortion itself is bad, but find it permissible for whatever reason. Is this a correct characterisation of the EA community? That they all harbour anti-abortion sentiment but for whatever reason permit abortion?

Overall it reads like a business proposal. Is this how you’re supposed to talk to an EA person? Instead of saying “here is why you should care about x”, you have to pitch them on the potential ROI of caring about something? If so, that’s a fucking frustrating way to think about the world, and this was a fucking awful article to read, just like every other treacles-y long form logorrhoea you get from these people.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

EA is a movement for rich philanthropists to justify whatever they want to do, with data* and studies**. It's literally ends justifying the means.

*data it's heavily cherry picked for whatever you, the powerful and so smart philanthropist, want to accomplish

**studies are funded to guarantee results that you want

[-] maol@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah the studies he cites are all over the place. One about how single motherhood isn't fun, which would seem like an argument for abortion, not against? It's just the aul "contraception causes pregnancy" argument catholic pro-lifers used to lose.

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