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....but American jews are mostly white.......
I'm so confused.
Whiteness is arbitrary and can be withdrawn pretty fast. That's part of the problem, white isn't a race, it's an ingroup.
Ask a Catholic how quickly they can be exempted from white club.
That's race in general too, same thing happens with mixed black people who grew up in an affluent white context.
Race is basically "made real" through racism, which is largely dependent on economic relations. Our modern notion of race didn't really develop until the 1700s. To me being anti-racist is about criticizing the notion of race itself, with the understanding that it's been made in to a real construct that has power through racism.
Muslims used to be considered pretty white before 9/11, Italians used to not be considered white in the early 1900s.
Race is a construct, homie
You're right. And before anyone rebuts, Irish and Italian weren't considered "white".
It was really a class distinction at first, the landed gentry used it to justify and explain their position in society. As empires expanded and exploited more territories it gained power as an explanatory framework for why some people were just destined to be worse off.
Ok, well I'll just tell this to the next black kid in my town who's shot at because they rang the wrong doorbell. "Have you tried meditation?"
Iirc, there was a black American woman whose land sat on an oilfield. I think either she got royalty or sold the land for profit. She was then led to sit in the train with other whites, as she deserves such treatment for a "white woman" according to the conductor.
The world is a lot more shit yet nuanced at the same time than you'd realise.
I would like to get a source on that, I have never heard of it before. In any case if that actually happened then it was A) a pretty extreme statistical outlier, or B) some scheme to get her to sign the papers.
Race has power even if it doesn't really exist, just like God. It's been reified/made real through the practice of racism. Barbara and Karen Fields call this Racecraft, in their book of the same name.
My mind immediately pictured a racist version of minecraft.
I think the debate should instead be about which strain we belong to.
"Race is bullshit!"
"Oh ya? Then how do you explain this bullshit about Race?!"
I'm saying race has a very real effect on people's lives. It exists.
“Race is a construct” and “race doesn’t exist” are two very different statements.
FTFY
Doesn't change anything, it's possible to identify with constructs, such as being gay, seeing that nobody seems to be "just" gay anymore, and it's more on the line of a spectrum. Where is the line drawn for any semantic definition?
Jews are only white when it's convenient.
I mean, I tan pretty well, and I've got pretty big lips for a white boy, but day to day, I have light skin, blue eyes, and light brown hair.
Doesn't matter, if your ancestors touched the Mediterranean then your white status can be revoked. Only the North Sea gets permanent membership.
I'm Polish, and they only begrudgingly accept us as white.