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You have already rewatched VOY, DS9 and TNG more than seven times, right?
Lower Decks, Enterprise, Picard, TOS, The Animated Series, The Orville? So many treks to watch!
I consider The Orville a show that is filmed inside the Trek Universe for people in the federation to watch for fun.
I think the community is in agreement on this one.
That's not spicy, that's generally understood.
Where the fuck did Galaxy Quest go?
I started watching DS9 for the first time couple of months ago. It is very good but visuals are quite dated (just finished season 1).
DS9 camera people had a real hardon for Vaseline.
Once you put it in the camera lens it's really hard to get off, and with their production schedule it's easier to just leave it on for the whole show.
Woah slow down there, a season a year is pushing it but a season every few months? You're crazy!
Right, hand over your fan card. DS9 is unmissable
Well, DS9 it is then. I know it's hard to survive the first two seasons, but it'll be worth it.
Those first two seasons really aren't that bad. There are some episodes that are downright excellent in there. Duet is a masterpiece.
Start mid-S2 if it’s really rubbing you. Armageddon Game is a great intro to one of the best relationships on the show, and a good story in its own right. By the time you reach the Maquis you’ll be hooked.
I’m convinced that many people don’t appreciate DS9 until their 30s.
Cool that the 90s shows each seem to appeal to different demographics even though they were all in theory designed for mass audiences ( unlike in the current streaming era).
The problem seems to be that a lot of younger fans that get into Voyager & TNG, just cringe at DS9 or find it boring. Once they’ve had that experience they’re hard to convince to give it a fresh shot when they’re older.
I think many of us feel that DS9 is one of those shows where each season is an improvement on the one before it. So it starts out pretty mundane at best with some terrible episodes, but by the final season it's pretty incredible.
I'll take DS9's first two seasons over TNG's first two any time. Yes, even Move Along Home. TNG also peaked around season 5, and was somewhat more mixed after that (but never going quite so low, either).
I'm more forgiving of TNG because it was breaking new ground. DS9 had years of TNG to build itself on. It should have come swinging right out of the gate. There are fewer bad DS9 episodes overall than bad TNG episodes in my opinion, but I will forgive TNG for being rocky at the start, especially when control was continually being wrestled between Roddenberry, Hurley and Berman.
Also, I think there are a lot of excellent season 2 episodes for TNG and I think Pulaski is a highly underrated character. One of the few who develops as the season progresses and doesn't regress. She slowly begins to admire Data and eventually accepts him as a fellow crewmember and not just a robot. You also had classic episodes like Elementary, Dear Data.
I agree on Pulaski. She could have been a great character if she had more than one season.
I don't think there's a truly great episode in TNG's first two seasons, though. They range from "utter garbage" to "fine" . Season three is massive improvement. Watching it back to back, it's almost jarring how much better it gets. Barely seems like the same show.
DS9 ranges from "I'll watch it, I guess" to "holy shit this is amazing". Kai Winn is a fantastic villain straight away, and would be the most talked about villain in any other show. The only reason she isn't is because there are so many great villains in DS9 that she gets lost.
Not in that particular order, no