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Just now hearing about this.
So she basically said antisemitism is okay because Islamophobia exists. Like, "well, if we can't stop racism, let's at least be racist against everyone." Maybe the worst take in the past 2 months of incredibly bad takes.
This is coming from a white, cisgender person who is neither Jewish nor Muslim, and is worth $60 million ($10 million she made since the start of the pandemic)
Is that what she is saying or is she saying that Muslims in the US normally get a lot of hate and since many people are upset by Israel's actions Jewish people are now getting a taste of that?
Maybe I'm missing some additional context but it doesn't read to me like she's condoning the hate towards any specific group, but simply pointing out that it exists.
Maybe she's full of crap or maybe she's highly educated on the topic, I don't know. I do know that it appears to me that people are putting words into her mouth. Again, maybe I'm missing something in the story?
My interpretation is your interpretation too.
However, getting a taste of their own medicine, as a phrase, normally means it is justified and/or deserved. So, it could be interpreted as being gleeful in Jewish people being targets. I don't think it is. I think she's just pointing out that the use of terrorist actions by Israel affects ordinary Jews with nothing to do with the conflict, just like ordinary muslims have been affected for the last 20+ years.
I think the fact that multiple people are getting cancelled over their support for Palestine is worrying. Especially as it doesn't seem related to a public backlash, but comes from those with power. Maybe heavy handed PR protection. Maybe using influence they have to support Israel.
As I type it, I realize that this is how conspiracy theories about Jewish secret influence starts. That's not what I mean. I hope I keep my agent.
Is that what the phrase normally means? Or is that just the most commonly held opinion by those offended by it?
The basis of the phrase only seems to mean that something is happening to someone who would normally be doing it to others. It offers no justification at all. Except perhaps poetically.
There's also a difference between saying "getting a taste" and "getting a taste of your own...".
One is just saying that you are experiencing what others have experienced, which is what she said.
The other is putting forward an accusation which she is obviously not doing in that statement.
Yes, but they are quite close phrases, so it’s not a huge leap for someone to make, in earnest. I assume an easier leap for concern trolls.
Sounds more like she is justifying the frightening rise in antisemitism because Islamophobia already existed:
"There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country,"
I don't think that she knows that Jews targeted by antisemitism is nothing new.
Or she's saying both are bad, and sticking your head in the sand for one because you don't like them but getting outraged by the other is hypocritical.