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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

In audio intercepts from the front lines in Ukraine, Russian soldiers speak in shorthand of 200s to mean dead, 300s to mean wounded. The urge to flee has become common enough that they also talk of 500s — people who refuse to fight.

As the war grinds into its second winter, a growing number of Russian soldiers want out, as suggested in secret recordings obtained by The Associated Press of Russian soldiers calling home from the battlefields of the Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk regions in Ukraine.

The calls offer a rare glimpse of the war as it looked through Russian eyes — a point of view that seldom makes its way into Western media, largely because Russia has made it a crime to speak honestly about the conflict in Ukraine. They also show clearly how the war has progressed, from the professional soldiers who initially powered Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion to men from all walks of life compelled to serve in grueling conditions.

“There’s no f------ ‘dying the death of the brave’ here,” one soldier told his brother from the front in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region. “You just die like a f------ earthworm.”

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[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As another Russian, I can confirm that.

Also, I'd add that, while Russia is full of men, and technically the manpower is close to infinite, the equipment is a whole another story.

Government organized a lot of volunteer services to allow civilians to support the effort by donating clothing, collecting money to buy armor and even guns.

Many on the frontlines are constantly talking about critical lack of basic supplies, and drafting any more people is just sending them to sure death without any effect on the actual military effort the Russian government pursues. This is probably one of the core reasons Russia doesn't escalate the conflict any more.

And yes - war is not popular here, but sadly, that's something we mostly have to share quietly on our kitchens.

[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

That, too. Good points, thanks.

The people that got mobilised late September last year already lead to many reports of extremely poor and lacking equipment, and news like that usually don't break out of something as gated and hostile to any outside world communications as the Russian army.

Prigozhin and his Wager group got increasingly mad because of that, too, among other things, as they weren't pumped full of money and best gear the Russian government could muster. They said they were getting g ripped off and such, but what really happened is they got down to the same tier gear as everyone else (maybe higher, still), and that was THAT infuriating to them.

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