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[-] verstra@programming.dev 34 points 9 months ago

And overwhelmed by the number of people willing to discuss nuaced socio-political problems of states and governments.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

He would be very upset that most of these people are neither white nor land-owners.

[-] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 25 points 9 months ago

Franklin? He would probably just be amazed there are openly Bi people and would just embrace power of infinite flirting. That and the McNuggins.

[-] AnotherOne@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

From everything i've heard of the founding fathers franklin seems like the only descent one.

[-] OmenAtom@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

None of them were perfect, and some of them had there beyond fucked up moments by todays standards, but for their time they were mostly a pretty alright bunch

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Thomas Paine is cooler imo. A lot more progressive than many of the other founding fathers

Adam's refused to own slaves on principle. Dude was solid

[-] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Adams was an ok guy.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not really. He could be a miserable bastard at times but all the sources agree he was very open minded and willing to accept the evidence of his eyes and honest arguments, condemning colonist atrocities against natives despite have quite a lot prejudice against them himself, freeing his own slaves, petitioning for abolition in Congress, etc.

He'd look around, say, "Well it seems to have worked out, where's the whorehouses?"

No. His great failing was championing the concept of time-based workdays instead of task-based. Ie, most people left work when everything was done before he got involved.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Ie, most people left work when everything was done before he got involved.

Well it's a damned good thing we don't use that system now, because everything is never done at big corporations.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

He would be even more upset that they only talk about such things online and then shirk their voting responsibilities.

this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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