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Venice gondola capsizes after tourists refuse to sit down and stop taking selfies
(www.theguardian.com)
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Imagine you make the guardian because you rolled your canoe over?
How much of a slow day does it need to be for this shit to make "the news"?
You should see beyond what's written: Venice has a big tourists' problem, who are not only increasing in numbers but also disrespectful of the history, the city and the people working and living in it. This story isn't anecdotical, it's emblematic of a widespread issue of touristic consumerism.
It's a shame tourists aren't able to behave appropriately. It would be nice if the city where to fine people for not following basic orders.
Maybe it's just me, but I thought the residents were always disrespectful of the city.
Something like Venice having the filthiest water of any city because the residents just dump their trash into it.
I dunno, I never really understood the reverence for Italian culture 🤷
They always seem to put the shittiest people on top while good people go unnoticed.
The italian mind for sure tolerates more contradiction than most, but that doesn't mean italian people can't complain.
Also, there is a lot of different factors at play in your comment. Even only in regards to sewers, can you imagine the complexity of designing, implementing and renovating a sewer system in a historical millenia-old city built on water?
Reverence is a projection, I don't think italians demand reverence, but respect and empathy would be a nice start.
While I have limited knowledge about the exact construction of Venice. I'd imagine localised aerobic septic systems would be a tolerable solution. The water coming out of those will have a slight mildewy/musty smell to it but is (allegedly) potable.
If it's my house, I can mess it up. If you're a guest, you behave better.
First off there is nothing historical about this boat.
Second, stop letting tourists in such high numbers.
Vote me for the mayor of Venice!
Seriously, it's a fucking canoe rollover. It's not damaged . It's not some historical statue. It's not a big deal.
I went on a trip to a native American historical site, and the tour guide told us about a family that came and the parents watched and egged on the kids while they used rocks to mark up the walls.
The person who responded to you isn't saying that this gondola is historical, rather that the attitude doesn't stay only in that boat.
The same people standing in the boat to take a selfie are also doing stupid shit around irreplaceable history.
You can willfully ignore the connection between these things. All things, really. But if the world seems confusing to you, this is why.
You're right. Let's get back to all the great stories about corruption, genocide, and how a few humans may be left surviving a barren, overheated wasteland in a century or two. It's been ages and I miss hearing about all that. Stupid gondola.
It's an emblem of Venice, whether you like it or not. Things have a symbolic value separated from their historical or financial value.
Also, the people of Venice aren't a homogeneous entity, they encompass various opinions, values, etc.
Finally, things aren't black or white. People of Venice can rely on some kind of tourism while not wanting to be invaded by disrespectful tourists.
This cynic's stance is lame.
Not every article needs to be about the most important thing in the world