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Exactly. How can people who don’t eat hamburgers know what a good hamburger tastes like? How can they think a tofurkey is anywhere close to a real one?
Thankfully, like gluten free foods, vegan ones are getting better. Though I still don’t trust vegan cheese.
My wife recently developed an allergy to dairy. There are some decent pizza blends and cheddar jack, but there are also a few that look and taste like melted plastic.
I end up making 2 pizzas (since the other 3 people in the house still eat dairy) and her pizza is more gooey than stringy, but I’ll eat the leftovers of either no problem.
One thing that made me enjoy pizzas alot more after having stopped eating cheese is to just have it without the cheese (or substitutes). Honestly sometimes I think I prefer it that way as I feel cheese can sometimes smother some of the more vibrant flavors. Highly recommend giving it a go!
Yeah my crust game has improved and I copied/improved a crust seasoning based on one from King Arthur’s Flour.
Brushed olive oil, seasoning and some brewers/nutritional yeast make really great breadsticks. And I can do it in about 30 minutes start to finish (plus a little more oven preheat time).
I assume the foods are developed and tested by non-vegans
The newer ones are, but I've had plenty of meat replacements that definitely weren't.
Yeah, before the current trend of sustainable / halthy / eco friendly foods (yay) there was absolutely zero broad market demand for vegan foods - so you only got vegan food from small vegan-run companies, who while very well meaning lacked the resources to make food that wasn't an abomination like the disgusting slimy mess that is tofurkey.
With the rise of the internet and global cultural exchange and etc, there's widespread ability for vegans to work collaboratively on improving the quality of the food / find dishes that are both delecious and incidentally also vegan (ex: chana masala). I've even had some gluten free baked goods that dont take like chickpeas and sand!
(Rant:) Not that gluten intolerances are real outside of coeliacs, but its a big step forward in niche cookery. Stop claiming to be gluten intolerant, you're not, and by diluting the severity of gluten intolerance you've made it impossible for coeliacs to safely eat at restaurants or trust 'gluten free' processed foods / ingredients.
My mom’s coeliac and has been since the 80s. It’s gone from “salad no croutons” with extra croutons to “gluten free salad served in a bread bowl.” It’s really frustrating.
Basically all vegans in the English speaking parts of the world have eaten meat before.
As Stephen Lynch would say, “Tofurkey? Toe fuck yourself”.
That stuff is not delicious. It is barely edible.