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Netherlands begins trial to make cannabis fully legal
(www.theguardian.com)
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Horrible plan. Just open up the law for home grown stuff with some clear boundaries
Why not legalize trade fully and cash in on those sweet sweet taxes?
Same reason Germany is failing to do so right now. EU laws and even some UN treaties that need to be circumvented in creative way as they don't actually allow legalisation.
The un treaties should not be a Problem. Germany could Just ignore them Like canada or leave the treaties and rejoin with a excemption for cannabis. Bolivia did this for Coca leaves.
Do you treat your own contracts the same way? Sign them and then act as if you didn't? What if other people treat you like that? Sell you a car, grab the money and leave taking the car with them?
Somebody has to start.
Home-grown was already possible. What do you see as the problem with this plan?
Possible in practical terms, but not legal
https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-regarding-soft-drugs-and-coffee-shops
Basically if you have 5 or less plants the cops will probably ignore you unless you're a dickhead or are annoying neighbors or something like that.
The reason they put this kind of limits is to protect the income (of coming?) companies. Nobody wants pesky people growing their own stuff, but spending taxable money. Even nicer "for everybody" if the initial money comes from lobbying companies paying for the law to be favorable to them.
yeah thats pretty much how illinois did it. the grow there is restricted to people buying a medical use license so they get the monies either way.
Nhaa you’re projecting… It’s been tolerated for a while now and the « companies » are absolutely not being protected so far. As far as I know they can’t legally source their merchandise…
Yeah I mean, that's the thing with marijuana legislation in the Netherlands in general - it's not legal in the first place. It would, of course, be preferable if it was actually legal (and this might very well be a step on the road to get there), but yes, in practical terms, there's not too much impact - whereas this plan addresses an actual problem, i.e. criminality involved with the drug supply of coffee shops.
Yeah my big issues with it are that it funds a lot of gangster bullshit in the country, there's a lot of tax money that could be benefiting the Netherlands that they're not getting, and there's no real control on testing for pesticides and mold.
The models employed in the US aren't flawless and a lot of the laws are written by idiots, but there's a ton of tax money going towards stuff like education in legal states and the requirements for testing for harmful substances are pretty major.
The state of Colorado alone generated something like $280 million in tax revenue last year of which a great deal goes to education and health care.