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Why bands are disappearing: "Young people aren’t excited by them"
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Maybe it’s because I’m old, but modern music SUCKS (yeah, blanket statement. There will always be exceptions, I know). It all lacks that organic warm feeling that elicits that feel good thing music used to bring.
I honestly don’t think niche music tastes have as much to do with it as much as music seems to have become exactly like movies. Rehash something from the 80s again and call it new or like all the marvel/dc mcshit.
This is honestly just a bad take. If you don't hear any music currently that doesn't sound the way you like it then you aren't looking in the right places. More music is being produced now than any other time in history, blanketly saying "all music now sucks" shows more about you then the current state of music.
Yeah I agree with you. I’m 40 now but grew up listening to music all the time. I’ve got a bunch of kids now so it’s hard to actively find new stuff on my own. I just subscribe to satellite radio and they do a pretty damn good job of finding good stuff. I just add to my library, and get more recommendations. Works well.
That's good! I'm in my mid thirties and I'm always reminding myself "new music doesn't suck, trends change". Just like how our parents hated our music because it was edgy and different, current music is edgy and different to them and that's what makes it appealing to the younger crowd. I don't understand why people have to be so cliche and shit on music, you can both not like a type of music and still not make fun of people who like that music.
For sure! The way music is recorded now sounds much better than we were growing up too. Guess that’s why there’s all these remasters these days.
I told myself when I was a teenager that I’d never be one of those people that trashed on others music tastes. I was a big nine inch nails, manson, tool fan and I’m sure most people hated that music at the time.
I've kind of gone both ways on this one. Some albums like Zeppelin I both like a good vinyl version that has the pops and clicks for nostalgia, while also liking a pristine 24-bit high definition flac copy that lets me here every pluck on the guitar perfectly. I don't think there's a "better" one for sure, I think it's people's tastes there.
For sure on the older bands, kids these days are calling NIN and Manson "old people rock" and there are already gen Zers who say "I don't like today's music man, I listen to NIN", like bro, we old now lol
Yeah soon they will be playing the edgy music we listened to in grocery stores. They already play Nirvana.
It get torn at times too about whether I like nostalgic recordings or the remasters. Just last week I was trying to debate which version of Pretty Hate Machine to add to the library… the original that I owned and knew inside and out, or the 2010? remaster which was louder and had some cool audio effects.
Ended up going with the remaster lol. I don’t have anything that can play vinyl and I’m sure if I did my kids or cats would break it. I do love the sound though.
Green Day is muzak in the local dead mall.
Probably haven’t changed the tape in 30 years. Damn, I just looked at Dookie came out 29 years ago. Wow.
yeah for me personally vinyls go on the wall and I store my high quality ones digitally. A fun project has been adding NFC tags to my vinyls though so you can hold a phone up to a vinyl and it'll start playing
Clever as hell
lol I shit on music? I made fun of someone? Seriously? Please, please point out where. I made a statement about personal taste, that wasn’t directed at anyone in particular.
I also pointed out something everyone that’s shitting on me (yes you too) missed. The organic nature of music is gone. The organic sound and feeling have been replaced by drum tracks, auto tune and digital all the things are gone.
I promise it’s not a “music is so hardcore/edgy now” thing. That would be rich though.
There you go. Saying that means that you think people who do like it have "sucky" taste. Better wording is "I don't care for modern music" which shows that you personally don't care for it. You can't just say "Hey everyone all of your favorite modern bands suck" and then get upset when people don't agree with you. If you can't take the criticism, then don't give it. No one asked for it anyway.
No, I didn’t say anyone that listens to modern music is a fucking moron because it sucks. I gave my personal opinion, and even qualified it with I know it’s a blanket statement and there are exceptions. Those two things are not the same.
Didn’t expect everyone to agree with me, however I was replying to someone else’s opinion on the state of modern music/concerts, which included my opinion and differed. That’s how forums work.
ugh okay, last reply to you because I don't have all day to go back and forth. No, your first comment was a blanket "Modern music sucks", and then when people started calling you out you changed your tune to "That's just like, my opinion man". Again, saying "All modern music sucks" comes off in an arrogant "My taste is better than yours" way. You know that because you changed your wording to "In my opinion I don't like modern music".
But don't take my word for it. Reddit has an entire subreddit dedicated to the cliche of "Music back in the 70s was better", "I only listen to Queen", "Man music today is just so fake and unoriginal". (I won't link it directly because reddit bad, but it's
lewronggeneration). It's a freaking trope now, and most people are sick of it. It is not original, it is not new, I know because I said the exact same crap 20 years ago when I was in high school about the same bands. Then I grew up and realized that people can like different things and music is not better or worse now, music is just music. I may have different tastes but that doesn't mean that this music good that music bad, and that I sounded like a douche when I said all of that.To close out, as both a huge Queen fan and as a huge Taylor Swift fan (yes, it's actually possible to like both), I'll leave you with one of my favorite things to post to people who insist "music sucks now it was way better then"
lol try again. That’s my original reply above. Note the parts in bold that qualify my statement. Also note the part in bold italic that explains why I feel the way I do.
I understand what you mean, it's a reasonable conclusion for anyone to come to.
sorry if I came off as shitting on your finly crafted retort.
Coming off as a bit aggressive here dude.
baby metal is awesome.
have you heard the hu yet?
Mongolian metal.
Omg. Yes. Amazing.
How about Hillcrest college marimba band?
That's another reason I am thinking niche music has killed the cover band.
There's no way a band can cover a wide enough range of todays music to make a $5 ticket viable.
Or, maybe I just don’t like modern music as a whole. I know it’s hard for people to grasp , but it’s very possible. As I said in my original reply, there are exceptions, but as a whole, no.
More of something doesn’t mean it’s good.
Please do tell me, where should I be looking. I use pretty much all of the major music services (for different things) so what other super hidden special places should I be?
I understand the sentiment but I disagree. I've found the best music ever from producers and bands formed after my 20s and 30s.
I just won't be seeing them in local venues anytime soon because almost all of them are from outside of the US and aren't in the "top 40" spotlight.
@AttackBunny @JoYo modern music always sucks. the reason why the music of the past seems better is because nobody remembers all the chaff that populated the charts.
We also don't have time to listen to all current music.
It's not that we don't remember it, we've never even heard it.
Oh trust me, there is plenty of older music that I hate, however, I could throw a rock from about any song/band and find one I like. Now, not so much.
I agree with many comments here saying this is a bad take, but I'm generally curious on how you're arriving to it.
How do you find "new music"? What is your approach?
Satellite radio (Sirius XM) works for me
Apple Music, Amazon music, pandora etc.
It’s all just so….. fake. Everything is auto tuned to shit.
Drum machines of the 80s were equally shit sound imo. It happens every generation, but modern music seems to have nothing organic about it now.
I don’t think it’s a bad take, it’s just that verbally speaking, I don’t like modern music. As I said in my original reply, I know there are exceptions, but blanket statement holds true for me.
I think a fair addendum would be popular contemporary music. Plenty of artists from the good old days are still making music true to what they were writing for. Whether they are popular or not though, I think something important to remember is people like you or I who go after making music.
Check out local performing arts centers, especially youth performance ones. You also can find some interesting stuff at open mics. I think there's an amazing space for music for artists who have never even tried to get an outreach of even 100 people. It's not modern music that's the issue but the modern music industry and discoverability.
I definitely don't disagree with you but as I said, I think it's fair to try to adjust your phrasing to specify :)
Fair. What was trying to comment on, more than the actual style of modern music, is that the warmth/soul is gone from modern music. Everything is digital/auto tune now.
It’s like your favorite album (vinyl) you remember listening to over and over vs the digitally remastered version. yeah the digitally remastered version is cleaner, but it’s lacks its soul, to me. Or the difference between seeing a really good musician live, vs listening to the recorded version of the same show. It’s not the same.
There are some catchy modern pop songs. They get stuck in tour head well. That’s the point, but am I going to be going looking for that song in 5years? 10? Not likely.
one way I tweaked my algo suggestions is by asking the fediverse for non english language bands that I might have missed.
that opened the floodgates for all the genres I enjoy.
I accidentally found “baby metal” that way. It’s great. No idea what they are saying though.
It’s not that music from the last 20 years sucks, more that it is just more of the same. There aren’t many bands you can listen to today where their sound isn’t that of a prior era, maybe slightly redone. When was the last real new musical genre? 90’s electronic, hip hop, R&b? 80s brought us alternative grunge and synth music. 70’s disco and prog rock and so on.
That’s kinda part of the problem though, isn’t it? Music used to evolve. There used to be distinct generations and genres, and sounds, character, and feelings, and everything. Now it’s just more and more of the same. It’s stagnant I guess is my issue with it. It all kinda sounds like a bad rerun of a crappy early 2000s pop song with no character.
Absolutely. I don’t see a future where people go out to a 2010’s night like they would go to a 70’s night today. There is just no distinguishing character.
Now all the ‘new’ music is competing with similar oldies and there is nothing to rally around with friends anymore.