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submitted 11 months ago by Yamainwitch@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

I'm not super happy with the lack of supporting data, just colorful graphs and a lot of emotional anecdotes but there is a clear disparity that I think warrants greater investigation. I love the credit union movement and was shocked to read this article. I would love to hear your opinions lemmings!

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[-] wyrmroot@programming.dev 50 points 11 months ago

With respect to data, there does seem to be a damning amount of it in the CFPB dataset they analyzed for the article. The fact that approvals were this disproportionate even when accounting for “income, debt-to-income ratio, property value, downpayment percentage, and neighborhood characteristics” is alarming. Specifically with respect to income, approval for lowest-quartile whites exceeded that of highest quartile blacks. Yes, credit score was not available in the dataset, but we know it doesn’t fully explain the gap because of its frequency as a cited reason for denial, and reliance on credit doesn’t really do much to dig NFCU out of this hole IMO.

I’m tempted to agree with the authors assessment that the use of automated tools by the underwriters is a likely contributor. Use a tool trained on historically racist data and practices, and that’s what you’ll get more of.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

We have a saying at work regarding data, “garbage in, garbage out”. If they’re using clearly racist historical data they deserve this shitstorm. They really should have known better

[-] MechanicalJester@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That's a rather old and common concept. GIGO

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You’re not wrong, work’s just the first place I heard it

[-] MechanicalJester@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

As long as you're not a software engineer with a decade of experience in, I ain't shook.

If you are, then I am not mad at you- just whoever was supposed to teach or mentor you.

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