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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not kind of. He showed up, he fought, he died. There's no dimensions there. But he looked cool, had a new lightsaber, and was probably the first actor in Star Wars that actually knew how to fight IRL.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

the first actor in Star Wars that actually knew how to fight IRL

That also goes for Liam Neeson, who had already had a badass sword fight, check out his climactic duel versus Tim Roth in "Rob Roy". In fact, I believe that scene was key in his being considered for the part of Qui-Gon, I remember it being said at the time.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I've seen that movie. It's a great fight scene, but the Darth Maul actor was a straight-up martial artist.

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

If you watch the clone wars TV show (highly recommend) the character definitely has more depth than what was portrayed in the movies. If you're interested in star wars character development. No better place to look than that show. You just have to suffer the first season a little bit. Since the series ages with it's audience.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Wasnt the actor for count dooku knowledgeable in regards to fighting?

[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

You mean Christopher "that's not the sound a man makes when he is knifed in the back" Lee?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Yes, that's the one!

[-] Thavron@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Yes but he wasn't in Phantom Menace.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but he was like fucking 80 by then.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago
[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Fencing with a rapier is different from waving around something which cuts and burns through stuff without pressure with every side, and doesn't have edges, and its resistance to movement stems not from gravity and aerodynamics, but from oxygen being burnt.

Though that's fans overthinking it, it's not like lightsaber fighting in SW was ever logical.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Fencing with a rapier is different from waving around something which cuts and burns through stuff without pressure with every side

It's actually closer to what Lightsaber dueling would be than the Kendo style used in most of Star Wars. The Light Saber has no mass and a single touch is incapacitating. So two handed hard chops like classic Luke are ridiculous. The rapier fencing technique to parry, thrust or slice quickly and lightly is ideal. You have a massless blade not a two handed clamore. You need only prick the opponent to severely harm them in the same way in fencing a touch, no matter how light, is a point for you.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

He was the setup for the need to find the next sith, Darth Vader

Unless my vague opinion doesn't line up with Star Wars lore, in which case, retracted

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I was always confused because I thought Dooku (Darth Tyrannus) was Sidious's apprentice. He's the one who arranged the clones to start being made 20 years before episode 2. But that would mean Sidious had two apprentices. Did they know that? Was Maul just given a title to make him feel better but was always seen as disposable?

[-] roscoe@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

I never saw Maul as a real apprentice initiated into the mysteries of the sith, just someone trained to fight with the force, although Maul may have thought he was an apprentice. Dooku got the real sith training, hence the force lightning.

All those inquisitors running around at other times aren't sith, just force sensitive enforcers.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Imo rule of two was an unnecessary retcon of a line from Phantom. "Always two Sith are found together" didn't have to mean ONLY two. It was to reflect that like Jedi Master and Jedi Padawan are always two Jedi found together, two Sith are always found together.

Instead of seeing the symmetry that Lucas was so fond of (it's like poetry), the EU ran with the line into an absurd history of how Sith developed into only 2 Sith in the entire Galaxy.

The fact that there was Emperor, Dooku and Maul coexisting meant Lucas saw the Sith as the evil version of the Jedi.

[-] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Dooku also was a Jedi Master, so he already had a mastery of the Force beforehand.

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I mean it makes sense considering he was quite literally a pawn

Slightly brainwashed too I believe

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Was geriatric when they filmed the 2nd film. He wasn't in the Phantom Menace.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Ah right “first actor”

I read as knew how to fight first

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