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Here you go goalpost moving. First it’s not true now it’s misleading? It’s not dishonest, their support is faltering and it’s obvious they can’t succeed it on their own. Stop acting like anyone you disagree with is just a victim of propaganda, it’s obnoxious at best and bad faith at worst.
I might add that “Ukraine is a puppet of the west” is a Russian propaganda talking point; physician heal thyself.
Your reasoning is very flawed on this. Dishonest and misleading are synonymous. And I never said they are a puppet of anyone. They are very far from alone and they obviously have the greatest interest. Their military assets amount to many billions with more constantly flowing in. When it comes to the means to make war, Ukraine is wealthy and applying any other measure is dishonest, a lie, misleading and propaganda.
Ukraine is worth our help but not worth lying to ourselves over.
Ukraine’s wealth is absolutely relevant to contextualizing this conflict. They have billions in arms because they were given to them by other wealthier nations. They don’t have the same domestic defense industrial base that Russia has even with Russia crippled by sanctions, nor do they have a steady stream of oil money. Without western aid continuing it’s doubtful that they will continue to have much success. I don’t have food security if I to get a meal at a soup kitchen every night, what happens if they close up shop? Same applies to Ukraine and the arms they need to fight.