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The pit bull discussion never ends. Pit bulls are like guns: objectively bad for society but some people really want to have them so we all have to suffer the consequences. Pit bull lovers don't care about all the victims, they only care about their personal needs and "rights". You can't convince someone not to be selfish so the entire discussion doesn't make any sense.
There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.
This has been said so many times it's boring: chihuahua with a bad owner never killed anyone.
Also: would you support mandatory background checks, permits and training for pit bull owners? To make sure that they only go to good owners...
I support educating pet owners, and regulating "puppy mills".
Dogs aren't guns.
Educating and regulating how? Mandatory certificates for pit bull owners? What regulations of "puppy mills" would stop pit bulls from killing people?
That's not what the data shows though. The vast majority of dog attacks are by pitbulls.
Except the major source everyone cites is one psycho who composes his data exclusively by going through news reports of dog attacks and determining it was a pit bull if any news source called it a pit bull rather than any scientific methodology whatsoever
Super reliable! You know, the same news sources that call every 1-hand bang-bang-thingy a "glock", a wooden two-hand bang-bang-thingy an AK-47, and a black shovel an Assault-Rifle-15-mall-sweeping-military-style-bump-stock-war-machine assault weapon.
Yeah I'm sure they're great at differentiating dog breeds too! XD
What reason would someone have to do that though? Probably was attacked by a pitbull in the past lol
Yes. She tried to run past someone and their dog on a narrow walk without speaking. Turns out running up behind a strange dog and touching it or almost touching it can lead to bad things. Who would have known except literally everyone else on the planet.
Pretty sure that might only happen with a pitbull or Rottweiler. You can't link me an example of it happening with any other breed.
It makes me sad how many ignorant people upvoted this.
Kids killed by pit bulls make me sadder.
Irresponsible parenting makes me the saddest.
Ah yes, it’s the parent letting their daughter play in the backyard that’s at fault, not the neighbor’s pit bull that crushed her trachea.
What is ignorant about it? I see a ton of facts. I’ve long said pit bulls are the assault rifles of the dog world. Much like it is easy to claim every gun and every dog can be dangerous with the wrong owner, somehow when a tragedy happens is is disproportionately one particular type at the center.
That's why mental health checks should be given to gun owners, outlawing them just makes us vulnerable to outside attacks. The problem isn't too many people with guns, the problem is too many mentally unhealthy people with guns and not enough mentally healthy with guns. Most mass shootings wouldn't happen if everyone they were shooting had guns themselves.
Dogs on the other hand are completely different. Your racially biased when it comes to pitbulls, no question about it. Do you see that more crimes are committed by minorities and think it's because of their skin color too?
When logic fails, accuse the other side of racism.
Put bulls are not an objective bad for society. They're not ruthless killing machines. They're not even more aggressive than other dogs.
Arguably not more aggressive, but definitely more damaging and lethal.
Do you perhaps know what the word "pit" in the name pitbull stands for?
Do they do anything that other dogs can't do? Besides killing people. What's the benefit of having pit bulls?
But they are for more capable of killing/maiming and kill more often than other breeds.
Any large breed dog is objectively more capable of killing a human. Pit bulls are just 20% of the US dog population and rottweilers are 2%.
Yet it’s still almost never a Great Dane, Bernese, St Bernard, Mastiff, or a Newfoundland. Pitbulls are 20% of dogs, yet [this study found they make up 53% of dog bite injuries requiring ER treatment.]) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100808/)
The fact is, they are disproportionally more likely to case injury or death.