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[-] KrankyKong@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not attacking her or trivializing her athletic abilities. But pretending that she doesn't have an unfair advantage over her competition isn't a good solution to the problem. Sports are separated by gender for good reason. Lia transitioned later in life after she went through male puberty.

Women's sports are important and must be protected.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

From the article:

She beat her closest competitor by more than a second, but never finished better than fifth in her two remaining contests.

So she won one competition and got middle of the pack on the rest.

How is this a problem?

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The problem is she's trans. The most important thing to these people is trans people should be treated as lesser woman. If the Michael Jordan of womans swimming showed up and started crushing all the competition because of a biological advantage they would have no problem. Even if genetically she was intersex as long as she was born with a vigina she would be "playing fair." There is nothing fair about the genetic lottery and competition isn't about beating every other competitor. At the end of the day these people can't let go of, "not getting the trophy" and that's thier biggest issue.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I don't think people care in friendly matches, but people forget how many young girls' lives are impacted through scholarships or grants given through high school sports. When these competitions can change the course of your life, perceived fairness becomes much more important, not just for the athletes but their families as well.

My experience has been that even suggesting that someone might not be a hateful monster for questioning trans involvement in competitive sports, gets you banned from communities, and labeled a transphobe on Lemmy.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

People aren't losing their scholarships to Trans women. This is a scenario you made up in your head.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Maybe they are. You accuse me of making the scenario up, but you literally just did the same thing. You can't possibly know they aren't. If I were a college that wanted to show how inclusive we were, I would absolutely pick a trans athlete for a scholarship, and since there isn't an infinite amount of money and scholarships available each year, it comes at the cost of someone else.

Since they don't tell us who they don't grant things to, there's no particular person who could ever claim victimhood, but it did cost someone who wouldn't have otherwise lost the spot. And not surprisingly, it breeds resentment towards trans athletes, which hurts the movement a whole. It's shitty all around.

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