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Jesus and the 12 Apostles are out to eat

Jesus gets the bill

"Why..."

Jesus rubs the bridge of his nose

"Why on Dad's green earth would somebody order wine?!?"

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[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

more like 8-10. Christ was born between 4-6 BC according to the Biblical Scholar's generally accepted date.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Didn’t exist at all according to reality, though.

Even if he did, I'm not sure 10yos are such great partiers either 😄

[-] problembasedperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's accepted among historians that the historical figure of Jesus existed.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Most of whom are religious people deferring to other religious historians who based their conclusions on a few vague accounts from romans and Jewish scholars that weren't even born at the time.

Key sentence of any honest article about "historical Jesus":

Documentary evidence outside of the New Testament is limited.

And as any rational person knows, the New Testament is part of a work of fiction based on old folk tales.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Oh, please do double down on those unsupported claims. I'm sure you'll be rewarded for the "erudite scholarship" any second now.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

please do double down on those unsupported claims

Talking to yourself?

I'm not making any claims. I'm rejecting claims of announcing absolute truth based on little to no useful evidence.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Romans kept pretty good records of what they did in Palestine. There isn't much doubt that a guy named Jesus in Palestine claiming to be the son of the Hebrew god was crucified at the time.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Romans kept pretty good records of what they did in Palestine

They were also known to twist history to suit their narratives and as the primary Christian power, pretending that their fictional guy was real very much suited their narrative.

To put it another way: since the Romans had a vested interest in the world believing he existed and there's no contemporary records, the burden of proof has not been reached.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Look at all the unsupported claims! But yes, sure, it is other People that must disprove your belief. Sure, yeah, so wrapped up in your faith that you demand others must share it. Just like the Evangelicals you hurl insults at. Simply two sides of the same faith based belief system.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

it is other People that must disprove your belief

Other way around. It's your belief that Jesus actually existed. I'm saying that the available evidence doesn't adequately support your claim.

so wrapped up in your faith that you demand others must share it

My faith? Are you sure you're replying to the right person? Because I'm not religious at all.

Simply two sides of the same faith based belief system.

Atheism is a faith based belief in the same way as "no car" is a type of car 🙄

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Fell free to prove you claim at any point. As you can't, perhaps consider accepting that your beliefs, no matter how vital to your life, are not superior to anyone else's. But then you'll just demand you don't have to prove your factless claim and that I must prove Jesus did exist. Something I didn't claim but in fact informed whose claim it was. And yet your faith in your personal belief is so fragile, you had to jump in and refute a statement no one made.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Please stop replying to all of my comments with the same ridiculous misconceptions.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

It is generally accepted that the historical person of Jesus did exist. There are other (non biblical) sources fromt that era that mention a man named Jesus of Nazareth from the Palestine area in the first century. Which is only logical, since he made quite a political and religious ruckus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I've been over this already with the other guy parroting the popular but unsubstantiated narrative of "historical Jesus", so I'm just gonna link you there.

https://lemmy.world/comment/6252063

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