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While it is true that a centralized energy source is more efficient and clean it still isn't enough. Even if every car was replaced by an EV it wouldn't solve our climate crisis. The only thing it would save is the automobile industry.
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Nobody, and I do literally mean nobody, has ever said that BEVs would single-handedly solve climate change.
Congratulations on knocking down the strawman you have created.
No you aren't.
https://kbin.social/m/worldnews@lemmy.ml/t/725646/-/comment/4317491
https://lemmy.world/comment/6271064
https://kbin.social/m/worldnews@lemmy.ml/t/725646/-/comment/4317491
ok
None of those comments say what you're alleging they say lmao, they're saying what I just said
HAHAHAHAHA fuck me. What an own goal.
Which ones oth these say that electric cars will single-handedly halt climate change? I'm waiting.
i think the only thing deft is deft at is the dunning Kruger effect.
Lol what the fuck are you dumb?
https://lemmy.world/comment/6270768
Read between the lines. This kid is telling me in 12 months diesel will be gone by EVs and then nothing, just that's it. Guess that's the final solution.
Another tells me I have no hope. There is no hope the car industry and infrastructure is bad overall entirely.
They're basically arguing once we get EVs car pollution is solved and checked so we can move on. And that's just not true.
No they aren't. Stop making stuff up.
Okay strawman boy whatever you say
Point me to where these people are saying BEVs will single-handedly end climate change, like you alleged.
Cute strawman. Nobody is going to say those exact words this isn't a magic spell and without those words I'm wrong you fuckin idiot.
The only thing EVs do is prolong a car industry. These dopes genuinely believe EVs are the car solution. Don't be stupid
You're being stupid.
The reason why you can't find anybody saying that is because literally nobody thinks it. You were lying when you said people were telling you that. Then you doubled down on the lie.
Moral of the story, don't tell lies, it makes you look like an idiot.
Literally straw man lol fuck out of here with your obtuse bullshit
Zero strawmans from me.
You're the one who said people were saying EVs would single-handedly solve climate change. All I did was refute your strawman bullshit.
Now you're just doing a playground style "...no you are!!!" because you can't come up with anything to defend yourself. Embarrassing.
BEVs are happening and they're better. Cry more.
You're an idiot. You set a make believe easily defensible position, they have to say those exact words or no.
I'm telling you the push back against EVs being bad shows people do not understand this is just a continuation of the same industry that really pushed us here. EVs are not the solution and showed you examples of people being mad at me for saying that.
You're literally brain rotted lmfao you don't know anything you're saying
I never said they have to say those exact words, that's just another strawman you've concocted.
I'm telling you to show me where people have said EVs are a solution to climate change.
I'm still waiting. Maybe you'll show me these comments that totally definitely exist after you're done throwing your toys out of the pram? Oh wait you won't because nobody has ever said it.
Moron.
But they are being marketed as a very sustainable and ecologically friendly method of transportation which they very much are not. There's no straw man there I just used a hypothetical to accentuate the meaninglessness of "more sustainable" forms of overconsumption. Cars are an incredibly wasteful and absurd form of daily transportation; especially in mass. The fight against climate change will directly affect your life and you will have to change aspects of your life for the benefit of the world as a whole. We cannot continue our path of overconsumption and overproduction and expect it to just work out or become sustainable in the future somehow. If the solution is being sold it isn't the solution
Obviously, I'm aware that no one believes EVs will single handedly solve climate change. I'm not stupid and I don't think you are either
You've just knocked down strawman yourself.
The point made by commenter is not that cars are the only source of climate change, but that EV industry is in itself heavily polluting and unsustainable. While it is true that it is a little less heavy on the environment than an ICE car (assuming you drive it regularly, because building an EV is less environmentally friendly, actually), it is still an incredibly environmentally unfriendly solution.
Manufacturing is super polluting and expends very limited resources in huge quantities. Energy sources are normally NOT green, and even if they are, they are not harmless, too. Tyres are still a giant problem. Parking lots require a lot of urban spaces, which leads to stretching cities and exacerbating problems with all transportation, as well as leading to deforestation on the outskirts and ramped up asphalt production. More roads are required, meaning again, more intervention in natural ecosystems, extreme amounts of resources and pollution.
There is simply no way you can drive a 2-ton car to move ~70kg human around with it making any ecological sense, while many people pretend that EV's are here to save us. No, sorry, they are not; you'll have to change your habits if you want to keep Earth habitable. Period.