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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago

TOS had the first interracial kiss between a white person and a black person on U.S. TV. It also shows a socialist utopia where men and women of all races are equal, indigenous cultures are respected, and they try to talk out a hostile situation before they resort to firing their weapons whenever they can.

Fox News should absolutely loathe that.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 60 points 11 months ago

TNG basically had Riker fuck an alien trans woman in 1992.

Any trekkie who complains about Trek being too woke, is either a moron, or not an actual fan.

[-] teft@startrek.website 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

DS9 had Jadzia kiss another trill whose host happened to be a woman. TOS had the first televised interracial kiss. ENT had a pregnant Trip Tucker. Trek has always been woke.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

And, of course, Discovery has Stamets and Culber, plus their adopted nonbinary child.

I'm pretty sure Mariner's up for anything.

[-] teft@startrek.website 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mariner is definitely down for anything. She’s dating the andorian Jennifer in a few episodes and she also went on a date with Steve Levy the conspiracy guy. She also dated an Anabaj to annoy her mom so…yeah.

She even says this in one episode (the Tom Paris one):

“Oh I’m always dating bad boys, bad girls, bad gender non-binary babes, ruthless alien masterminds, and bad Bynars.”

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I like that she had to classify Bynars separately from non-binary people.

[-] teft@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

She wants to be a throuple. No judgement here.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

She wants to be a throuple.

Is it though? They're Bynars so it's linguistically complex

[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 11 months ago

Steve Levy the conspiracy guy

now I'm even more mad my wife won't let me watch discovery

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

First televised interracial kiss in the US. I believe there was a televised interracial kiss on UK TV a decade earlier.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

I will be forever disappointed that the higher-ups refused to have that alien played by a male actor. I am glad if it helps trans people feel noticed and respected though.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Seem to remember Frakes being dissapointed with that too. Wanted a male actor.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yes, he's talked about that before.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

The neat thing about post scarcity societies is that economic systems become moot so long as the government isn't particularly oppressive. It's still an hierarchical, and somewhat militaristic, society.

It also followed the old scifi serial blueprint they were used to.

[-] skydivekingair@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I thought about the Kirk-Uhura kiss but two things, they aren’t currently openly saying that shouldn’t be allowed (on Fox News) and considering she was a Yeoman or a Lieutenant at the time being kissed by her Captain is right along the “grab em by the pussy” narrative they side with.

You are right if they looked at any of the social establishments that the franchise embraces they would hate it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

and considering she was a Yeoman or a Lieutenant at the time being kissed by her Captain is right along the “grab em by the pussy” narrative they side with.

They were being forced to kiss by telepathic aliens. They both even admit they have had feelings for each other in the past but it was inappropriate to act on them. I don't think that applies.

[-] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

You know what I had forgotten those details. Good recall!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I've watched a lot of TOS in my life.

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