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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 152 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That's right, never trust a private company that might go public in the future.

That's why you should build your communities on Discord instead. 🀑

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 125 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That shit is the most infuriating thing ever to me. It seems like so many technical discussions and communities are going to Discord now where that information is not indexed or preserved. How many issues have I had where the answer was sitting on a Discord server that will never appear in any general search result?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve tried to use discord before but it seems just kinda… awful. It’s essentially a single uninterrupted, general purpose comment chain about a singular topic. It’s a forum meet twitter but worse than either?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago

Yea that's cause originally it was just meant to be gamer friends voice chatting and text chatting with each other. They build all the other features on top of what they had originally so it's terrible as a reddit/social media alternative.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 23 points 2 years ago

Yeah. I've come to believe the problem isn't Discord itself but how people use it. But I totally get your point. So many niche communities. I had to make a Discord account and then someone just fucking answers "!faq" and a bot pastes the answer. Why was that not on their GitHub page? It is what it is.

A Discord server can be created in seconds and can easily have everything they need. I get why they turn to it but it sucks.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Discord is the same thing as technical slack threads, or IRC chat. People try and use it as a reddit replacement when it really truly is not.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Forget reddit replacement, people try to use it as a wiki/documentation replacement.

Deranged behaviour.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I feel forum communities have themselves to blame for a lot of people not wanting to interact with their forums.

Essentially, there's a level of gatekeeping that existed where if you didn't ask questions the 'right way' or even ask the 'right questions', you would be flamed and potentially have your post deleted. Some of these people actually believe that if they can't answer a question, then it's the fault of the asker and not their own.

Why go through the effort if that's how the community is going to behave? Sometimes, it's more fruitful to say nothing than to tear someone down or give wrong information just so you can contribute something.

Discord is nice because of how informal it is, although it's also getting corrupted by the same autists who need to have everything 'just' their way. (referring to things like forcing people to start threads instead of an open room for questions.)

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago

Since when as autism anything to do with this? I'm figuring out but can't find an answer.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well modded discord servers for popular topics will have forum channels that behave exactly as you would expect them to. Sure they're not indexed on search engines, that much is true, but discord isn't the "blink and you'll miss it" live chat client that it once was.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I was specifically referring to the forum like sections. The lack of indexing and internet archive means large swaths of knowledge, timelines, history, and even culture will become dust in the wind.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why discord? Everything on it will be lost without exception. Fuck discord.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

It's why they put the clown face emoji at the end. Discord sucks so hard for finding information. The number of interesting projects that exclusively use Discord for their documentation is astounding and frustrating as hell.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm all in on Matrix. After hearing the words, "Nobody uses IRC anymore, everyone uses Discord now", I knew we were in trouble.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

mIRC for the win.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Mozilla is a non profit foundation, the corporation is owned by the non profit and exists for tax reasons only. They're different than a regular corp.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37000232

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The NFL was a non-profit until 2015.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a non-profit that stopped the free distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Non-profit status doesn't automatically equal good but Mozilla has been good so far...for the most part. It has had its own controversies.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not what I'm referencing.

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/

Oxford originally pledged to give their vaccine away for free but Gates convinced them otherwise.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Correct. I should have gone into more detail. Cheers!

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well fuck, I guess enshittification is universal. The only safe space is community foss/libre projects I guess

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

And only as safe as the audit it gets