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[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Something worth considering is brand-name products. People are often willing to pay more for these despite having the same use value as the equivalent commodity with another brand (and they may very well have been made in the same factory). Would the brand-name product in question, if it's popular enough, be considered a separate commodity from other brands' commodities with the same use value?

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

In my view, its just a grift that happened to stick.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago

of course it's a grift, but I think it's worthwhile trying to define what kind of commodity it is

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Can metaphysical things be considered commodities? Buying X brand because of "status" is meta bullshit, thats why i would just consider it a grift instead of a commoditie.

In general, ideas as commodities is a grift.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

It's not metaphysical; there has to be physical branding on the commodity (e.g. a logo for clothes, a particular operating system for phones). "Grift" is only a subjective label -- everything that's sold is a commodity, the question is whether commodities with the same use value should be categorized as different kinds of commodities based on branding

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