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For Bernie to win the general in 2016 we would’ve already had to be a pretty different country. Though I agree things would probably be a fair bit better.
The idea that his odds were worse than Hillary who the republicans spent two decades preparing against is laughable.
The moment he accepted being branded as a socialist he lost. The upside is he also accelerated the death of that term meaning anything other than “not Republican.”
We owe Hillary an apology. She was right on target.
He would have crushed Trump under his heel. Almost anyone would have.
It’s tempting to speculate and claim victory when he never had it tested, but I just don’t think that is valid when he didn’t even win the primary, which is going to have further left participants than the rest of the nation in the first place.
The democrat establishment was against him and put their thumb on the scale among the party elite but ultimately people didn’t pull the levers for him. He raised the cash, he shot his shot, and people did not come out for him as expected (despite the impressive showing). It didn’t help that in both campaigns he assumed a youth vote was waiting in the wings that was never there. Disastrous assumption on his part based on no quantifiable data.
Polling showed him beating Trump both times. In 2016 it showed him beating Trump but Clinton losing to Trump. It's not only speculation.
That is indeed speculation and “polls” meaning what? Which polls? When in the race?
All those people who were voting for him in the polls should’ve showed up at the primaries if they were so numerous. I’d entertain the idea if you told me just 2016, but 2020 there is no way. He did worse than 2016 by a large margin. Once biden won SC Bernie’s campaign collapsed. I’d know - I worked it!