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submitted 10 months ago by King@lemy.lol to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Something I noticed a lot is that while the whole promise if the fediverse is decentralization, it's not sustainable and very centralized at most.

In the last months I opened multiple accounts to use multiple fediverse services(Mastodon, Pleroma, Lemmy,... etc) and I chooses non-mainstream servers to test the decentralization of the fediverse.

Most of the servers that I opened account in to use got shutdown by the servers owners due to a lot of reasons( literally every server that got shutdown has it's own specific reason, from financials to ideology and software).

From what I can see currently at least, the best approach to social media sites are either complete P2P(which comes with it's own disadvantages, but it has a strong advantages to consider) or one centralized server.

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[-] King@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago

Did you read the whole post?

My point is not that someone will shut down the fediverse, my point is that small and medium instances got shutdown within a year, what that leave us with, is a centralized big instance that does not use the fediverse and holds so much power.(think Lemmy.world/lemmy.ml)

All this leads me to the conclusion that the superior options in this case as I keep saying is:

  • Complete P2P.
  • non-profit, opensource, centralized service/social media.

(BTW, one of the benefits of the centralized service is easier moderation.)

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The problem sounds more like hobbyists trying something out and finding they don't like it or can't sustain it to make it bigger. It still costs money to host the servers and maintain a domain name. If the instance hosts can't afford to keep it up or have no motivation to do so, of course they will eventually shut down, and I would expect many small instances to die after a few months because there's no justification to keep spending money on hosting a thing barely anyone is using. Host your own if you want. Join a bigger one that actually has some kind of funding to keep going. Simply due to the fact that any random person with the time and resources can run their own servers to host the same software is what makes federated stuff resilient and nigh unkillable.

If it was centralized, if just that 1 thing died so too would the entire idea. Like putting all your eggs in one basket.

[-] THE_ANON@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

So what some may stick some won't that's the point . We don't want to make it centralized .I think you will be better suited somewhere else .

[-] King@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago

You don't want to understand my points or argue with good faith.

You just want to say fediverse is good any other option is bad and if I don't agree then I should look elsewhere.

The good news for you is that I am actually going to move to another service in a month, the bad news is you will keep pretending that the fediverse is perfect till you see the day where everything I just said and you ignored, is proven to be valid and truthful.

[-] THE_ANON@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No man you are misunderstanding me, i am just saying different things have differnt uses and user bases. And you are not the target audience of lemmy and the services you described aldready exist the people in here are here because they don't like them and i don't want anyone to leave cause of lemmy userbase still being very small.

[-] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You're making good points, and I want to read them but, the terrible/lack of punctuation makes it so I have to read everything twice to understand what you're saying... I mean this purely as constructive criticism because you seem like an intelligent person with intelligent points to convey.

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