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When people say the phrase "Don't hate the player, hate the game", it removes responsibility from the player (lemmy.world)
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I'm talking in the context of the "capitalist rules". If you say the aforementioned sentence, you remove the responsibility of the player by dismissing the fact that the winner makes the rules.

PS: Doesn't work for every context: if the player aims to change the rules because he doesn't like them, he might see winning as a way to change them. "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" I guess...

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I consider morality to be a societal representation of our social nature.

Imposition of "right" and "wrong" guidelines from outside are called "ethics".

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

morality noun principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour. "the matter boiled down to simple morality: innocent prisoners ought to be freed"

There isn’t much of a distinction between ethics and morality. Ethics is mostly spoken of as a philosophical question, and morality as an ideological one. Ethics is usually associated with the ancient Greeks, and morality to Christianity.

What I mean is that if we allow external entities and “authorities” to dictate to us what is right or wrong (an ideology, the Pope, a philosopher we like etc.), we aren’t living materially and objectively, but ideologically. We are being controlled by externalities.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

You should also look up the definition of ethics, if you do so for morality:

ethics noun(used with a singular or plural verb): a system of moral principles: the ethics of a culture.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

Ok? Not sure what you mean by this hahaha

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

The difference between morality and ethics is commonly used as such:

  • morality: Distinction between right and wrong on a specific, or individual level
  • ethics: a system of moral principles. Usually invoked/developed by systems.

When you claim that

"We are being controlled by externalities"

then that is due to the ethics invoked by these externalities which try to impact your individual moral compass.

The christian church usually claims that morality is absolute, since it comes from god. If this was true and you consider that "there's no salvation outside the church", this makes the church the arbiter of ethics and by extension: morality. At least in their logical framework. Therefore, it is only natural for the church to talk about morality, when it actually is talking about their ethics.

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