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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Grand jury in New Mexico charged the actor for a shooting on Rust set that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins

Actor Alec Baldwin is facing a new involuntary manslaughter charge over the 2021 fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the movie Rust.

A Santa Fe, New Mexico, grand jury indicted Baldwin on Friday, months after prosecutors had dismissed the same criminal charge against him.

During an October 2021 rehearsal on the set of Rust, a western drama, Baldwin was pointing a gun at cinematographer Halyna Hutchins when it went off, fatally striking her and wounding Joel Souza, the film’s director.

Baldwin, a co-producer and star of the film, has said he did not pull the trigger, but pulled back the hammer of the gun before it fired.

Last April, special prosecutors dismissed the involuntary manslaughter charge against Baldwin, saying the firearm might have been modified prior to the shooting and malfunctioned and that forensic analysis was warranted. But in August, prosecutors said they were considering re-filing the charges after a new analysis of the weapon was completed.

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[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Um no. That's a blatant lie.

He was handed a gun, and told it was cold.

According to a search warrant, the guns were briefly checked by armorer Gutierrez-Reed, before assistant director Halls took the Pietta revolver from the prop cart and handed it to Baldwin.[38][39] In a subsequent affidavit, Halls said the safety protocol regarding this firearm was such that Halls would open the loading gate of the revolver and rotate the cylinder to expose the chambers so he could inspect them himself. According to the affidavit, Halls said he did not check all cylinder chambers, but he recalled seeing three rounds in the cylinder at the time. (After the shooting, Halls said in the affidavit, Gutierrez-Reed retrieved the weapon and opened it, and Halls said that he saw four rounds which were plainly blanks, and one which could have been the remaining shell of a discharged live round.)[40] In the warrant, it is further stated that Halls announced the term "cold gun", meaning that it was empty.[38] Halls's lawyer, Lisa Torraco, later sought to assert that he did not take the gun off the cart and hand it to Baldwin as reported, but when pressed by a reporter to be clear, she refused to repeat that assertion.[41]

People attacking him just make shit up left and right.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -4 points 9 months ago

Maybe we do, it's confusing that when somebody points a gun at another person which he hasn't personally checked and pretends that somebody had to check it instead of him and that absolves him, some people think he's right.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

So, you admit you're just making shit up to paint Baldwin in a worse light?

You also admit you have no fucking clue how stage and film work?

Because pointing a gun at someone for a film is allowed, because the production hires actual experts who are legally responsible for making sure that any weapon handed to an actor is safe. The armorer in this case was incompetent, and got the job because her father was a damn fine armorer and had connections.

Do note, that while Baldwin was a producer on the film, he was one of 10 producers, and never handled hiring. His main duties were fundraising and minor script changes.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago

I started with recalling that the accident happened when he was waving the gun for expressiveness. Then my memory went off track, like it often happens, because the general idea of somebody using a real weapon for expressiveness for me is very irresponsible.

That core part turns out to still be correct. The rest not.

Also you are making it sound as if having a real shooting gun on a set at all was so bloody necessary and unavoidable that it doesn't make sense to teach people holding it basic rules.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

waving the gun for expressiveness

See, that's the first place your memory was wrong. Because that core part is in fact wrong.

He was rehearsing a scene with the director. Asking questions about where to stand and how to draw and aim the gun.

The real gun on set was because it would usually be loaded with blanks.

Period accurate guns didn't have smokeless powder. So the blanks would be loaded with that same powder.

You also want a real gun for closeup work. There was not supposed to be any live ammo on set, so it should have been safe.

Unfortunately, the armorer was incompetent, and the prop supplier sent dummy rounds that had been co-mingled with live rounds that were produced for a previous film.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago

OK, makes sense. I've been a bit stubborn on this because of the way Americans talk to everyone they suspect of sympathies to the other half of their internal politics.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

You've also been spreading lies and misinformation up and down this thread.

Here, read this.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/rust-investigators-live-rounds-alec-baldwin-1235122384/

It's how live rounds made it onto that set in the first place. Until Baldwin pulled that trigger, no one on set had known that there were any live rounds on set.

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