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[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It depends on if you recognize the voice as your own thoughts that you control. If your thoughts hit your inner monologue before they hit your concious thoughts, the voices can quite litterally sound as if someone is speaking to you in the same room.

Normal people experience it extremely rarely, usually when absent mindedly distracted with memories and thoughts or while waking up. Normal people will also rapidly recognize it was a stray thought and there's not actually someone there. Daydream type stuff.

Everyone loves to pretend the differences between "crazy" and "normal" are vast, but all it takes is the tiniest detail of your thought process to be wrong, and suddenly you have A LOT of evidence there's someone or something else talking to you. All it takes is not being very smart beyond that, and suddenly God or your imaginary best friend is telling you to embezzle and you totally believe it.

Probably why ye' olde people merc'd people for heressy. Even amongst the religous who are far more likely to believe with thin evidence, it works to weed out literal crazy.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Any belief in a magic man in the sky is literal crazy.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I don't know about "crazy", but immature and intellectually damaging? Yep.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

If I told you that I believe that humanity was created as an experiment by an alien race of clouds who communicate with us through the rain, and they tell me who to vote for and who to hate, you’d think it I was batshit to blame it on the rain.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

Depends. If I also suffer such delusions, like MANY people do with religion because we're all human and have similar profound experiences... then yes, I might actually be inclined to believe you if I didn't have a critical mind able to parse through all your claims.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I’d say that because we are human, we have the capacity to distinguish fiction from reality… well, most of us who have critical minds can.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's nice to pretend emotion isn't a significant, if not majority factor in peoples' decisions, but you're just deluded if you think even rational people don't fall for less obvious tripe all the time.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Religion. Cults of personality. Political parties. Advertisement campaigns.

Just look up what's happening with the Stanley cups right now... Look how the Jews in New York reacted to their illegal excavation getting shut down (oh, what a surprise!) Look back on how crazy the US was after 9/11. Straight up cheering as our government spends trillions to spy on us.

People are over emotional in large enough numbers about really stupid things. It matters.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

So, crazy people? People who need therapy? Brainwashed people? Okay.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If you cannot understand how most people believe in at LEAST one of those things I mentioned with virtually zero knowledge on the topic, you are simply choosing to be ignorant to stay an edgy boi making quips. Pathetic.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Pathetic is making excuses to believe in things that aren’t real because it makes you feel good.

Unless you lack the mental capacity, for whatever reason, to understand fiction from reality. And then it’s just sad.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, and many, many people engage in self-congratulatory or self-consoling behavior and thought patterns instead of logical ones. Dismissing that tacitly does not change reality.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

None of those things are related to believing in false truths. Keep grasping.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Are you literally braindead? This is about people believing things without evidence. If you're going to claim religion or political campaigns don't involve believing false truths, then you're just proving how much you do not comprehend what I'm even saying...

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

God is not a thing that is real. Have a good night.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, exactly why I put religion on the list of, "things people believe without evidence." Are you forgetting what this conversation is even about? Pathetic.

[-] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I almost totally agree about what you say, unless you are being mindcontrolled, if that's the case you can clearly hear another person voice into your own head. But if you're not, then you are just nuts and you should be locked into a mental hospital.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Mind control isn't real, so if you're experiencing that, you also need to talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Probably both.

[-] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Who told you mindcontrol isn't real? Google "Stargate project" first and if you have some questions later contact me.

Spoiler: secret services have decades using that shit, or do you believe the fall of the Soviet Union just happened cos communism it's predestined to fail?

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